IKM SampleTank 3 (ST3) Now Available

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:it means there's actual discourse and you're not being blown off.
wait !! we have to choose between discourse and getting blown off ??!! :o :o :P :P :hihi: :hihi:

:help:
There's supposed to be something about marketing stuff in there... So have I told you about our Summer Strummer 3 promo for AmpliTube fans? ;)

BBFG# - I will surely let you all know. I need to check on the other too, that's definitely supposed to be on the radar.

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Cancelling the BUILDING INSTRUMENTS DATABASE needs to be improved. Takes as long for that to be registered as letting it run its course.

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topaz wrote:Host automation should not be a feature request it should just be.

I don't know of any modern plugins that do not support host automation.
I agree with you; let's even compare to IK's very own Amplitube - which allows the user to right click any parameter and assign automation. Sampletank's implementation seems to be an afterthought in comparison.

ST3's 'midi control' window is really underdeveloped. You can remove macros, but you can't add assignments. What is even the point of this? It just seems useless in its current state (sorry).

See what I'm talking about

PS Enjoying this update otherwise. Except for that 'voices' category debacle :nutter:

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Peter, I am not at my main DAW for the next 2 weeks. Will check upon my return and then eventually involve support.
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
FrankT wrote:
5. ST3 works fine for me in Cubase 7.5 and Studio One Professional. I have problems with the standalone version though as I cannot choose my RME Asio driver in the Audio settings. The RME drivers tend to be rock solid and I have never experienced a similar problem with any standalone VSTI. Hence I guess this is a ST3 issue.
Thanks for the other constructive thoughts and suggestions in 1-4. Have you reported #5? It seems there may be an issue with a single interface or manufacturer here in this case. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support

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Finally got around to full install. Took the whole day. Mostly due to importing old libraries. Process could be smoother. Over 76 gigs...

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BBFG# wrote:
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:
BBFG# wrote:Do we have a demo download yet?
We'll get it out very soon, barring any major issues with it. I don't have a hard date to share yet but it shouldn't be long.
Just let us know asap?
How about them relaxing the transfer fees?
Where are they on that?
Probably at the same place as when they thought that charging 15 euros to download 2GB of Sampletank Expansion was a fair price and a good idea...

How much will it cost to re-download ST3 content once the six months (is it six months or a year) runs out?

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I thought I'd read that they charge the $15 for all your content?
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they charge you for every redownload. i solved this by simply backing up stuff.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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While using in projects, i noticed sample tank can quickly become a CPU hog. When you compare to some other romplers that take much less recources, its a bit dissapointing tbh.

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Bombadil wrote:I thought I'd read that they charge the $15 for all your content?
it's preposterous, either way. if the case is made that the price is to cover server space, then why would someone only owning 2gig of data have to pay for the same as someone who has over 60gigs of data ??

but, how can the case be made anyway ?? it's not like every install of the software is different. they have to have the instals for new customers, anyway. distribution channels e.g servers are part of the outgoing costs of running the business. it's just another way of fleecing customers. and, yes peter, the company has the right to do business how it chooses. but it's just one of the many justifiable reasons why ikmultimedia have the reputation they do

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nvm
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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:but, how can the case be made anyway ?? it's not like every install of the software is different. they have to have the instals for new customers, anyway. distribution channels e.g servers are part of the outgoing costs of running the business. it's just another way of fleecing customers. and, yes peter, the company has the right to do business how it chooses. but it's just one of the many justifiable reasons why ikmultimedia have the reputation they do
a case can also be made (and i did make it repeatedly, and will continue to do so until developers come to their senses) that there are other methods of distribution that involve much less server costs and are much more reliable, mainly - peer to peer. you put out an "official Torrent", let it spread, and you'll never have to worry about outgoing traffic any more, because your customers will do everything for you. you can even automate distribution of updates using an RSS feed!

i honestly don't see any downsides to that - the integrity is guaranteed, so it's not like someone will be able to spread malware like that; the authorization part is in the authorization manager anyway, so it doesn't really matter if it's distributed in the open - you can already get that with a free IK account; the sounds aren't likely to change very often, and it's not like they're watermarked or something, so a one-size-fits-all torrent will work perfectly fine (sounds are what make SampleTank 3, but you won't be able to use it if it's not authorized, so again, exactly what is the problem here?). there may be some legal hurdles to overcome (seeding a torrent you're effectively becoming a distributor, and that's usually prohibited by license agreement), but i'm sure a good lawyer could come up with some "you're allowed to distribute as long as it's the official torrent" legalese instead of the usual boilerplate.
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I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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Burillo wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:but, how can the case be made anyway ?? it's not like every install of the software is different. they have to have the instals for new customers, anyway. distribution channels e.g servers are part of the outgoing costs of running the business. it's just another way of fleecing customers. and, yes peter, the company has the right to do business how it chooses. but it's just one of the many justifiable reasons why ikmultimedia have the reputation they do
a case can also be made (and i did make it repeatedly, and will continue to do so until developers come to their senses) that there are other methods of distribution that involve much less server costs and are much more reliable, mainly - peer to peer. you put out an "official Torrent", let it spread, and you'll never have to worry about outgoing traffic any more, because your customers will do everything for you.

i honestly don't see any downsides to that - the integrity is guaranteed, so it's not like someone will be able to spread malware like that; the authorization part is in the authorization manager anyway, so it doesn't really matter if it's distributed in the open - you can already get that with a free IK account; the sounds aren't likely to change very often, and it's not like they're watermarked or something, so a one-size-fits-all torrent will work perfectly fine. there may be some legal hurdles to overcome (seeding a torrent you're effectively becoming a distributor, and that's usually prohibited by license agreement), but i'm sure a good lawyer could come up with some "you're allowed to distribute as long as it's the official torrent" legalese instead of the usual boilerplate.
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audientronic wrote:Finally got around to full install. Took the whole day. Mostly due to importing old libraries. Process could be smoother. Over 76 gigs...
Wait. You only had 76 gigs of old SampleTank libraries? It must have been your backup's backup sampler. It only took me just over 3 (full) days to import (and re-import) the more than 300 gigs of old libraries. Re-building the database every time it crashed is what took the longest. Fortunately, I hardly ever use it.

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