IKM SampleTank 3 (ST3) Now Available

[Bombadil]

10+ days later, I am still waiting for support to get to the root of my issue.

The ticket I see that appears about this issue was opened on August 3rd and has regular replies with the last on Friday (the previous business day). It does not appear that your issue is able to be replicated on their systems at this time, and they are doing their best to see what could be triggering this in your specific setup. I appreciate your patience.

My mistake, then. It just seems like 10+ days.

[Burillo]

i've imported all Xpansion Tanks, Miroslav full, XL, SampleTron and a couple of Sonic Reality libraries with no problem.

the key is that you restart sampletank after 3-4 libraries. otherwise each library takes progressively more time to import due to memory leaks.

[jancivil]

well, i don't find them realistic (try playing anything fast - machine gun galore!), but i find them good enough for sketching purposes. while they aren't quite on the level of BFD et al, they're surely miles better than anything ST2.

I understand what you mean, but it is like pretending the TR909 has realistic drums and no machine gun. If you need a realistic drum in a song... well... you call a real drummer. Otherwise, everything is "fake", with the paradox that, in electronic music, the "ultrarealistic instruments" are faker than the fake emulations, since: while you can hear the "fake" romplers mb patches, on the contrary playing sampled "ultrarealistic" instruments instead of calling real musicians, seems like a sort of "magic trick". It is up to you to dedice wheter you like this "fake taste or not: see for instance what the drummers were thinking of drum machines in the 70s-80s-90s. Nowadays considered "classic" and often played by them, too... "oh, the analog!", "oh, the TR909 kick", "oh the moog brass"

You don't actually know what you're talking about with realistic drums, though. I always want realistic drums and I have never called a drummer or set up in a room, I always do it at home in BFD2 and now BFD3. People I know with great discernment capacity don't question it, & the person that isn't involved as a user of the technology would never feature that it isn't real.

The world of samples for viable live-sounding music is here now and for many things has been for some years. It's a matter of chops, really.
There is no analogy with synths, that's word salad, 'it's like pretending the TR909...'. It isn't like that at_all.
Something is limited to machine gun or it has sussed it, as a matter of plain fact.
I don't know what 'electronic music' specifically has to do with real drums anyway, now you're on about 'drum machines' and caring about aping 'vintage' gear. If you want 'moog brass' today, get Monark. Get with 2014.
Speak for yourself, your experience doesn't extrapolate to an overarching statement about the state of things.

I know what I thought about drum machines in the 1980's (which has nothing to do with the price of tea in China). It was the means to an end, just as was the Ensoniq Mirage for us in those days.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

i've imported all Xpansion Tanks, Miroslav full, XL, SampleTron and a couple of Sonic Reality libraries with no problem.

the key is that you restart sampletank after 3-4 libraries. otherwise each library takes progressively more time to import due to memory leaks.

Have you reported alleged memory leaks? If this can be replicated and indeed identified as such, it would get reported to development and fixed.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

As stated earlier, we were working on a LIVE page video tutorial and here it is for those interested:

[neverenoughfunk]

As stated earlier, we were working on a LIVE page video tutorial and here it is for those interested:

why does the video end before showing how it works in a real life situation... i.e. if i hit program change button on the 4th beat of the measure... will the new patches be loaded by the first beat of the next measure?

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Right near the beginning of the video you can see the multis for each section of a song loading lightning fast because they take advantage of background loading (and those are being triggered from a controller using MIDI program changes, FYI). The speed at which each Multi will load depends on how complicated the Multi is, of course, so you'd need to prepare and practice accordingly as with any performance. Since the samples are preloaded, this is an extremely fast process compared to simply loading a Multi.

You should have the opportunity to use this feature when the free version is available for demo purposes as it will allow the use of Live mode just like the full version - we're targeting later this week.

[Teksonik]

i've imported all Xpansion Tanks, Miroslav full, XL, SampleTron and a couple of Sonic Reality libraries with no problem.

the key is that you restart sampletank after 3-4 libraries. otherwise each library takes progressively more time to import due to memory leaks.

Thank you very much. That was the tip I was hoping for................

[audientronic]

i've imported all Xpansion Tanks, Miroslav full, XL, SampleTron and a couple of Sonic Reality libraries with no problem.

the key is that you restart sampletank after 3-4 libraries. otherwise each library takes progressively more time to import due to memory leaks.

Have you reported alleged memory leaks? If this can be replicated and indeed identified as such, it would get reported to development and fixed.

Memory leaks or not, I had the same experience. If I had to do it over again I would force quit it before every library build and let it rebuild on startup. It was very snappy only on the first rebuild, for me. But I was worried a force quit would cause other problems. As a result, importing the libraries took a whole day (day and night finishing at about 1 AM). And 90 percent of that time was rebuilding the directory.

Mac OS 10.8.5 3.4 Ghz Quad Core i7

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

That wasn't the case for me and others even with my MacBook Air that is below those specs for sure. Report it to support and they'll verify if there is a global issue and get it fixed. Thanks - http://www.ikmultimedia.com/contact-support

[Bombadil]

And now I am finding more and more patches won't play, this time from Miroslav. The patch names are there, but there's no sound, even when the Core Audio is working. I go to the edit menu, get the map just to make sure, click on the notes with the mouse, and nada. I am starting to get really pissed off. I've taken the original Miroslav and samples off my computer. SJFC.

[Teksonik]

Memory leaks or not, I had the same experience. If I had to do it over again I would force quit it before every library build and let it rebuild on startup. It was very snappy only on the first rebuild, for me. But I was worried a force quit would cause other problems. As a result, importing the libraries took a whole day (day and night finishing at about 1 AM). And 90 percent of that time was rebuilding the directory.

Mac OS 10.8.5 3.4 Ghz Quad Core i7

This is what I remember reading hence my request for import tips. Not to sound rude but I hope it's only a Mac issue.........

[BBFG#]

I'm starting to wonder if IK did any testing on the other end of the spectrum in system requirements?
I'm starting to notice a pattern where if you have too much power for their projection, it has problems?

[mhog]

Was it that difficult for IKM to just rebuild in ST3 format the old Miroslav, Sampletron, Samplemoog and SonicSynth content for long term owners?! They still sell them for 60$ each...

[BBFG#]

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