I have been exploring the harmonics function of the filters in MDynamiqEQ.
The function is really cool.
I would like to have more control on how to choose the harmonics.
It would be cool if you could choose the harmonics in a tonal way, just as you can choose frequency from a keyboard pop up.
That way you could easily design harmonics using chord, scale or overtone series.
Or is this already possible?
Extended harmonics function
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Inger Wrongwriter Inger Wrongwriter https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=293348
- KVRist
- 43 posts since 1 Dec, 2012
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122 - KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I'm kind of lost here, it seems that you are trying to adapt harmonics to something not related to it at all. I could understand there may be some creative reasons for doing that, but it is not really related to harmonics.
Well, you can probably do that anyway - set Semitones to 1 (instead of default 12, which means an octave) and then check the harmonics you want to use. Anyway I think you may want to take a look at multiparameters, these could help you "being creative" imho.
Well, you can probably do that anyway - set Semitones to 1 (instead of default 12, which means an octave) and then check the harmonics you want to use. Anyway I think you may want to take a look at multiparameters, these could help you "being creative" imho.
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 25 Sep, 2010
You can pretty much do anything you want with the harmonics feature. Even though it's called "harmonics" and is mostly used for a harmonic series, the filters don't necessarily have to be harmonically related. Mangle them any way you like and save them as a preset.
As Vojtech, suggests, the Semitones setting adjusts the interval between filters, so setting it to 1 means each of the 16 possible frequencies is one note above the previous one. Enable just the first, third and fifth "harmonics" and you've tuned it to a major triad.
Follow your instincts, Inger, and grab this plugin. It's not just a novelty, it'll likely become your go-to EQ for everything.
As Vojtech, suggests, the Semitones setting adjusts the interval between filters, so setting it to 1 means each of the 16 possible frequencies is one note above the previous one. Enable just the first, third and fifth "harmonics" and you've tuned it to a major triad.
Follow your instincts, Inger, and grab this plugin. It's not just a novelty, it'll likely become your go-to EQ for everything.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
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Inger Wrongwriter Inger Wrongwriter https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=293348
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 43 posts since 1 Dec, 2012
Yes this is very much for creative reasons.
First I have begun to explore how to use eq and ”tune it” to the song key.
Now that i found out about the harmonic feature of Meldas eq I see a lot of sonic potential.
For instance I had a song in E major there I could ”notch out” the non scale frequencies (i.e. F, G, Bb, C, D) One note=one eq band. Turning on the harmonic on the eq bands, and with a narrow q-value, I could then apply dynamic attenuation on these frequencies to the whole spectrum.
I used this on a guitar part and it really helped the part to sit in the mix.
I had to use all available eq bands to achieve this (but not all harmonics).
I can see a big creative potential in being able to assign the harmonics more flexible based on a piano keyboard pop up.
But maybe it’s just me?
Btw
The harmonic feature also helped me build a working substitute for Waves Factory Trackspacer. I love this plug in.
First I have begun to explore how to use eq and ”tune it” to the song key.
Now that i found out about the harmonic feature of Meldas eq I see a lot of sonic potential.
For instance I had a song in E major there I could ”notch out” the non scale frequencies (i.e. F, G, Bb, C, D) One note=one eq band. Turning on the harmonic on the eq bands, and with a narrow q-value, I could then apply dynamic attenuation on these frequencies to the whole spectrum.
I used this on a guitar part and it really helped the part to sit in the mix.
I had to use all available eq bands to achieve this (but not all harmonics).
Yes i understand that. But the harmonics are even spaced, and if you want to affect frequencies scale wise 5 eq bands with 16 harmonics each is not enough. 5X16=80. A grand piano has 88 keys and the human hearing covers even more than that.As Vojtech, suggests, the Semitones setting adjusts the interval between filters, so setting it to 1 means each of the 16 possible frequencies is one note above the previous one. Enable just the first, third and fifth "harmonics" and you've tuned it to a major triad.
I can see a big creative potential in being able to assign the harmonics more flexible based on a piano keyboard pop up.
But maybe it’s just me?
Btw
The harmonic feature also helped me build a working substitute for Waves Factory Trackspacer. I love this plug in.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
First, thank you!
Now, you need to tell me a practical case about what you want to do. Right now it seems to me that you want to assign a band to every note, correct? I could see some creative potential by compressing/expanding each frequency separately, but I think you'll get to various problems. First of all, you may want to check MSpectralDynamics ( http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/ ... alDynamics ).
Now your math is correct, though with MAutoDynamicEq you have 7 bands, which should cover it, but it would be hard to assign it. Though 7 bands is the number of notes per octave in each basic scale, so that would be pretty easy. If you want to assign really all semitones, it would be harder to setup of course, but not so much - just use the 7 band, first assign to C0, 2nd to C#0...... (for frequency you have the piano keyboard, so it should be a piece of cake), then set the number of semitones for harmonics to 8, done.
About the assigning harmonics using piano keyboard - sorry, that's far too much. There are technical problem and this use is very very very very extreme.
Now, you need to tell me a practical case about what you want to do. Right now it seems to me that you want to assign a band to every note, correct? I could see some creative potential by compressing/expanding each frequency separately, but I think you'll get to various problems. First of all, you may want to check MSpectralDynamics ( http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/ ... alDynamics ).
Now your math is correct, though with MAutoDynamicEq you have 7 bands, which should cover it, but it would be hard to assign it. Though 7 bands is the number of notes per octave in each basic scale, so that would be pretty easy. If you want to assign really all semitones, it would be harder to setup of course, but not so much - just use the 7 band, first assign to C0, 2nd to C#0...... (for frequency you have the piano keyboard, so it should be a piece of cake), then set the number of semitones for harmonics to 8, done.
About the assigning harmonics using piano keyboard - sorry, that's far too much. There are technical problem and this use is very very very very extreme.
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Inger Wrongwriter Inger Wrongwriter https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=293348
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 43 posts since 1 Dec, 2012
Thanks for your answer. I guess it's time to examine MSpectralDynamics.