Official Serum thread!

[aMUSEd]

OK I caved

[Sampleconstruct]

Harmonic Ladder:

No no you're confused.

This thread is to argue about what Serum isn't and tell people they're wrong.

And use the word but really really a lot.

Really?

[PietW.]

Here are some wavetables made with Audio-Term, including some PPG/Waldorf - like stuff.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/q80lagb2bpauti ... m.rar?dl=0

These files have the correct wavetable header, you can put them directly into the wavetable folder.

Thank you for sharing blacktomcat666!
These are very nice and interesting stuff, not usually we are getting useful, working tables
and some even speaking!

@PietW: i'm confused, it was an exe file? What to do with it?
Is it the same waves what we have in Zebra?

Why exe? This is a wav file.

[jacqueslacouth]

gone

[Sampleconstruct]

Ingonator:

What is the difference between what Synthmaster or Circle (or Spectral) do and Serum? You talk of wave scanning vs.interpolation - what is happening in each/which is better? Seems like Serum is "limited" to 256 stages, while the morph/mix/interpolation of SM or Spectral might cover more variations, but I'm not certain.

Spectral can carry two waveforms per oscillator and you can crossfade between them, not spectrally morph, so that´s a big difference. Spectral is a fantastic piece of software, but nothing like Serum in terms of wavetable synthesis.

[quantum7]

Nice! Maybe I should buy Serum if Simon is going to create patches for it. When do you think your first Serum soundset will be ready for sale?

Harmonic Ladder:

[Sampleconstruct]

Nice! Maybe I should buy Serum if Simon is going to create patches for it. When do you think your first Serum soundset will be ready for sale?

Harmonic Ladder:

I'll announce it tomorrow, the web designer is still working on the new pages, first half of November the latest and there will be sequels, this synth can be deeply explored.

[BDeep]

Ingonator:

What is the difference between what Synthmaster or Circle (or Spectral) do and Serum? You talk of wave scanning vs.interpolation - what is happening in each/which is better? Seems like Serum is "limited" to 256 stages, while the morph/mix/interpolation of SM or Spectral might cover more variations, but I'm not certain.

Spectral can carry two waveforms per oscillator and you can crossfade between them, not spectrally morph, so that´s a big difference. Spectral is a fantastic piece of software, but nothing like Serum in terms of wavetable synthesis.

Circle: allows to load two waves and morph between them
Diversion: allows to make custom waves, load bigger samples (incl granular synthesis), but does not allow you to morph between arbitrary waves
Spectral: as Simon pointed out above
Serum: allows you yo load/alter/create waves -per individual step - so you can not only morph between two waves, but you can create your own "trajectory" as it were, between up to 256 waves.

Not sure about Synthmaster, have demoed it, but not enough to elaborate on that.

The way I see it, the focus of Serum is mainly the oscillators where it gets most of its power and where you have a ton of wavetable related flexibility. Beneath that is a relatively simple (in terms of routing and compared to say Diversion) but very well thought out and very well executed synth structure.

[PatchAdamz]

Here is a Dark Ambient Preset - live, with all effects in the patch.

Mod Wheel control and micro controls for live mixing of effects, electronic insects, bowls/bells, etc.
A little spooky to get in the mood for October.


https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... rk-ambient

Wouldn't call it dark ambient, but… fantastic, my favourite patch in this thread

Thanks!

Here is an Ambient Patch for Serum from "Concentrated".

This was done with one preset and one guitar track (2 tracks total).
All the effects on the synth are built in to the preset.

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... lus-guitar

"Concentrated" for Serum

Im diggin that vibe, some very interesting sounds!

Thanks!

There will be more posted soon and the release thread is here.

"Concentrated" for Serum

[Ingonator]

Ingonator:

What is the difference between what Synthmaster or Circle (or Spectral) do and Serum? You talk of wave scanning vs.interpolation - what is happening in each/which is better? Seems like Serum is "limited" to 256 stages, while the morph/mix/interpolation of SM or Spectral might cover more variations, but I'm not certain.

It is a big difference. In a real waveatble you could have up to 256 DIFFERENT waveforms por use a smaller amount wher the empty "slots" are filled aith e.g. a interpolatoion feature in the wavetable editor and/or by automatic interpolation by the synth engine.

You could scan trough the whole wavetable (during that te scanned waveforms are played) with using e.g. an enveleope or a LFO whic is why the correct term for this kind of synthesis is "wavetable scanning synthesis"..

In e.g. Circle, Spectral and some other you could only morph between two different waveforms, the rest is interpolation/crossfading done by the synth engine.

In Synthmaster a wavetable is created in realtime by loading 2 up to 16 different single cycle waveforms. Between those waveforms there is automatic interpolation/crossfading so the knob that conrols the waveforms will have 128 steps (which includes interpolated waveforms based on the orginal 16). In fact the wavetables in Synthmaster are continous which should be possible to be notice when scanning trough them slowly with e.g. a LFO (usually there should no be "steps" that could be noticed.

Some wavetable scanning synthes also have a fixed amount of actual waveforms (e.g. 100) and use a table that includes pointers to those waveforms (e.g. first waveform 50 is played, then 36, then 23 etc.).
As far as i remeber (it is around 8 years ago now) this is s way how it was possible to creste custom wavetables in the Waldorf Microwave XT hardware synth.


Ingo

[zerocrossing]

I've found a pretty serious bug. I notice that when I assign aftertouch to something like filter frequency I get a lot of zipper noise/clicking. Anyone else having this? I'm in Live 9 32 in Windows 8 64.

[N.30]

Could be a ram issue as serum apparently uses more to offset cpu cycles. Live 9 64 bit would be worth a try.

[Ingonator]

I've found a pretty serious bug. I notice that when I assign aftertouch to something like filter frequency I get a lot of zipper noise/clicking. Anyone else having this? I'm in Live 9 32 in Windows 8 64.

Just checked with the Serum demo and the 64-bit VST2 plugin in Live 9.1.5 64-bit (at Windows 7 64-bit).
No problem when assigning aftertouch to Cutoff here.

did you use a factory preset and if yes then which one? Maybe i could check it with that patch too.

[cb8rwh]

Here's an little ditty that demonstrates one the patches in a pack that I am putting together. The preset is called Van Falen

https://soundcloud.com/rich-whitfield/s ... -van-falen

[4damind]

Ok, starting with a bit Ambient... only some bars but 4x Serum (bass and drums are not Serum )
Frank Arnold - Ambser