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PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:30 am

An example of one of the several vocal patches. (From "Concentrated" for Serum).

The patch is very fluent and changes organically unlike standard sampled vocals.

This is due to the extensive controllers built into the patch.

The style can go from Gregorian, to Tuvan, to Choral, all in the same patch.

It can solo, or do multiple voices:

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BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:10 am

zeep wrote:
bitcrusher wrote:
How can i make the transitions go smooth?
Open the WT editor (pencil icon on waveform area) and possible Process->Xfade Edges. This will smooth out any discontinuities from subharmonics. Then to create the interpolated frames, select either morph->crossfade or morph->spectral.
That's a quick reply! Thanks Steve.

Do i also need to select all the positions of the wavetable then?

Nope, they're evenly distributed across the slots automatically.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:42 pm

quantum7 wrote:I've been going through the demo again and MAN this thing eats a lot of CPU....and I have a 5930k even. Serum needs a multi-core switch like U-he's Diva.

Depends if it's possible to utilize that efficiently. Steve will decide about it, ultimately...

I'm more concerned about RAM usage too, the more presets you browse through in an instance of Serum, the more RAM usage grows... seems like it would never end. I suppose this is because it's precalculating stuff and writing it into RAM for faster preset loading? If so, it'd be nice to have an option not to keep this stuff into RAM, so it should purge all WT data from RAM when loading presets... Or at least a button to purge RAM except for the currently loaded preset, which is what you really need when you choose a sound for your production.

HcDoom · Post by **HcDoom** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:57 pm

This is great sounding synth but the optimization part of the programming lags behind, like its from 2004. CPU is ridiculously high, no multicore support and as EvilDragon mentioned, eats RAM like crazy. For me, this synth is still in beta version.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:04 pm

Hmm.. I have not big problems with RAM or CPU usage but I had some crashes.
So for me it's more important that Steve can make Serum more stable and fix the bugs.

Greg Houston · Post by **Greg Houston** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:24 pm

CPU can be a bit high in general, but the things that really eat it are patches with unison and long decays like pads, and generally you don't have more than one patch playing at a time like that, and once that instrument stops the CPU goes back down. So you can have lots of instances of Serum on a track just as long as you aren't trying to play multiple instruments with unison and/or long decays. Granted my CPU doesn't allow me to even begin to explore the full potential of Serum with a single pad, but you can get some very nice ones within the constraints of current processor power.

Cheers!

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:35 pm

Dang it, I've already bought multiple synths this month. The sale ends relatively soon though. Hrm.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:18 pm

Edited, there seem to be newer updates of the full version that could make my comparisons useless.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:23 pm

Which one is more CPU hungry - Massive or Serum?

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:23 pm

Serum

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:31 pm

4damind wrote:Serum

Thanks. Then i wait the time when i get a better laptop.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:35 pm

Igro wrote:Which one is more CPU hungry - Massive or Serum?

Massive was quite CPU hungry at the time it was released but by todays standards i don't think it is really bad. especially when compared to e.g. Serum.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:40 pm

Ingonator wrote:
Igro wrote:Which one is more CPU hungry - Massive or Serum?
Massive was quite CPU hungry at the time it was released but by todays standards i don't think it is really bad. especially when compared to e.g. Serum.

Well, Massive is a joke compared to Serum.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:48 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Igro wrote:Which one is more CPU hungry - Massive or Serum?
Massive was quite CPU hungry at the time it was released but by todays standards i don't think it is really bad. especially when compared to e.g. Serum.
Well, Massive is a joke compared to Serum.

Hmm, joke is Sylenth1 or any other ordinary VA compared to Massive. Massive is really similar to Serum apart from some wavetable functions (making custom wavetables, for instance).

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:53 pm

I certainly don't think Massive or many other synths are "jokes". I don't think Serum sounds great, but I wouldn't call it a joke. Regardless of how "precise" it is over other synths which have some aliasing, it still sounds very thin, cold and sterile. Very "software" sounding. I would never use a synth that has a million features if great sound isn't there *for me*. I understand though, it's the new kid on the block...

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