MPowerSynth improvements & feature requests

[Tricky-Loops]

There isn't any pitch envelope, really? Now I'm shocked... Every synth should have one or more pitch envelopes or at least every oscillator should be connected with MMultiBandVibrator to get the right bitches!

[Breeze]

You can assign a modulator envelope to pitch...

[Breeze]

Maybe it suffices to add a dedicated ENV/LFO for two more targets: pitch and pulsewidth....Then add the same to pitch and pulsewidth and 95% of the usual cases are taken care of.

Yeah... who cares about dynamics these days, anyways...

[dmbaer]

Maybe it suffices to add a dedicated ENV/LFO for two more targets: pitch and pulsewidth. Pitch is also important for pads and leads, a pitch env just adds the neccessary spice to many sounds. If you could make the filter tremolo a little more flexible (i.e. a few shapes to select from, or even a full blown shape editor like in the LFOs) that would already help a lot. Then add the same to pitch and pulsewidth and 95% of the usual cases are taken care of.

Regarding the tremolo in the ADSR - first of all, I love the concept - never seen it anywhere else. For me, the most desirable improvement would be a ramp parameter. As it works know, tremolo appears to just start immediately when the sustain stage of the envelope is reached. I'd love to be able to say "slowly ramp tremolo up for x milliseconds". That would be truly elegant, IMO. Likewise, a gradual diminishment when the release stage starts might add a bit of finesse as well.

[MeldaProduction]

Ok, folks, so:

Pitch envelope - sorry, but for me it's a "no" right now. For drums it is essential, I understand that, but for normal sounds it just doesn't seems so and if so, then you can still use modulators, but it would be global, that's true. But of course, feel free to send me some audio example with and without pitch envelope, so that I can hear how "awesome" it is .

PWM envelope - same answer. Not mentioning that you can somehow simulate PWM using FM, not the same, but... Again, you can use global mods and if you feel this is really so awesome, please send me some audio examples .

ADSR tremolo features - ok, so, ramp in definitely sounds reasonable, added to to-do list. Ramp release, that I'm going to deny probably. And about shapes - custom shapes definitely no, but some general parameter switching from say sine^8 (close to exp) to sine^1/8 (close to square) should work.

[CableChannel]

Ok, folks, so:

Pitch envelope - sorry, but for me it's a "no" right now. For drums it is essential, I understand that, but for normal sounds it just doesn't seems so and if so, then you can still use modulators, but it would be global, that's true. But of course, feel free to send me some audio example with and without pitch envelope, so that I can hear how "awesome" it is .

PWM envelope - same answer. Not mentioning that you can somehow simulate PWM using FM, not the same, but... Again, you can use global mods and if you feel this is really so awesome, please send me some audio examples .

Dang I had a couple of sounds which I wanted to make, and when I missed these features I cancelled making them. I hope I find them again

ADSR tremolo features - ok, so, ramp in definitely sounds reasonable, added to to-do list. Ramp release, that I'm going to deny probably. And about shapes - custom shapes definitely no, but some general parameter switching from say sine^8 (close to exp) to sine^1/8 (close to square) should work.

That sounds cool. Please also include triangle and rectangle and noise if possible, just all the fixed shapes that are there.

[wildcafe]

1) Is there a way to assign a parameter to a key range? I'd like for example open the filter on higher notes and close it on lower notes.
If not -> feature request: In my perfect "Meldaworld" I open a modulator, goto a page called "Key Range", which looks like a transformation shape. On the x-axis are the notes (e.g. C-4 to C4) and on the y-axis is the depth of modulation. So I can draw a shape so that the modulator's depth is 50% on C-2, 60% on C0 and 100% on C2...

2) In the arpeggiator I'm doing a triplet sync. Then I'm creating a clip in Ableton Live with one note pressed of the duration of the arpeggiator. When I loop this clip now, the first note of the arpeggiator is played twice on every 2nd loop. Try it with a sound with short decay/release. With "normal" sync it works fine. What am I doing wrong?

3) In Ableton Live, if I activate the record button of the track the plugin is loaded on, the arpeggiator suddenly has a delay of 1 note. So if you program for example an arpeggiator to a base drum loop with the record button turned on and turn it off afterwards, the loop doesn't fit any more. What is this caused by? Is this a bug?

[CableChannel]

PS: About Pitch and PWM: it's less about envelopes but more about per voice LFO . If you program a pad and add some global vibrato (i.e. LFO on pitch) then it adds some movement but the sound in itself is still static. However if you have an independent LFO per voice you get a real rich, smooth and broad beating in the sound. It's actually essential for smooth and rich pads. I will send examples later.
Same with PWM. Pulsewidth modulation per voice in a pad sound leads to a much richer and smoother sound than PWM globally.

Pitch envelope is important for basses and leads, but these can be monophonic so for those poly ENVs are not so important, you are right.

[MeldaProduction]

Key range - go to MIDI settings, Notes tab, and assign whatever parameters you want to control . Note that these will be global, not per voice. For both filters, there are panels to control filter parameters by note/velocity/aftertouch, this is per-voice.

Triplet sync - check the sequence length. Try using sequence length of multiply of 3, e.g. 6 or 9, that way it will align to the triplets. If you'd think there's something wrong, please send me a simple project and I'll check here.

Live record - this looks like a problem with Live. It's possible that live is "going ahead" with the timing to avoid the latency, but it doesn't make much sense to me. Again, please send me a project if you think there's a problem.

PWM/Pitch lfo - aaaha, that makes more sense. Anyway please send me some examples, I'll try to think about a solution, but I'm not sure now really. Adding vibrato wouldn't be such a big deal probably, but I'd need some "persuasion" .

[Tricky-Loops]

PWM/Pitch lfo - aaaha, that makes more sense. Anyway please send me some examples, I'll try to think about a solution, but I'm not sure now really. Adding vibrato wouldn't be such a big deal probably, but I'd need some "persuasion" .

Listen to some modern club music, most of them has some pitch movement (via envelopes or LFO) in the sound - especially some years ago pitch envelopes (beside pitch bend) were quite in fashion!

Seriously, a pitch envelope is a must-have, or at least a vibrato effect with an envelope!

[MeldaProduction]

I understand, but I'd like to hear the polyphonic version...

[Tricky-Loops]

BTW, I cannot test it at the moment but does it have Unisono? Like DUNE 2?

[MeldaProduction]

I don't really know DUNE 2, but it has a pretty powerful unison in oscillator 1 .

[CableChannel]

OK I did a few checks and it's actually quite a negligible difference

The biggest share of a rich pad is created by detuning oscillators against each other or putting differing LFOs on different osc pitches which is already possible right now. Also unison is exactly for this, or chorus fx. If you apply all of that, the difference between a global or a poly LFO per note is barely audible.

So, you could actually skip that request from my side, or at least it is not on top priority.

I have one example where the filter freq is modulated per voice and you hear a difference.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/334 ... VsPoly.mp3
First 9 seconds mono, then from second 10 poly. You hear the resonance peaks going around independently in poly mode while they go together in mono mode.


Still I would very much like the feature of more flexible filter tremolo for lots of other use cases!

[MeldaProduction]

Cool! That's what I wanted to hear
And don't worry, the tremolo will be more flexible... I even think about the typical oscillator shape editor.