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[blackflag]

I could potentially allow the filter Mix control switchable to be a post filter volume (i.e. no dry through).

That would actually work perfectly for me, thanks for even considering. I hope my criticism hasn't been too harsh, english isn't my first language, believe it or not I really do enjoy using this synth.

[Dasheesh]

The Virus was too cold for people when it came out as well. It's just all the process of going more digital. I like the biting slicing nature of it. I find myself reopening the demo and tooling around with it constantly and I always come away with cuts and bruises. It's a lot of fun to program. Hard to keep your hands of it. Just accept what it is and and if it isn't what you are after there are other options.

[himalaya]

Here's a mega huge feature request: 'flip-flop' source on the mod matrix.

[Dasheesh]

Have fun with that.

[PatchAdamz]

I could potentially allow the filter Mix control switchable to be a post filter volume (i.e. no dry through).

That would actually work perfectly for me, thanks for even considering. I hope my criticism hasn't been too harsh, english isn't my first language, believe it or not I really do enjoy using this synth.

There is nothing wrong with an alternative or even opposing opinion.

Not every synth is for everybody.

Not every ones music sounds the same, right?

[Skyre]

Yea it's really only a problem when driving the filter really hot

Well, in general the drive control adds gain more than it colors the signal.

I'm sure this will be handled over on xfer but while I'm here, my immediate thought was to code some counter-volume to the Drive knob to keep the level consistent when pushed past a certain point. Basically what you said with a Mix toggle, but applied to the Drive automatically instead.

Edit: I just described a compressor, haha. Not quite what I meant though...

Edit 2: Hmm, maybe instead a button next to Drive to toggle auto-leveling? I've said too much.

*retreats to shadows*

[MorpherX]

"Analoger" for Serum

Hi to all,

if somebody thinks the filters of Serum are to harsh and digital (and many are really in this kind) but likes all other in Serum there is a solution until Steve will might offer also more real analog styled filter characteristics.

Waldorf D-Pol FX-VST from the waldorf Edition which is newly updated within the last month.

D-Pol is the ultimate virtual real-analog styled filter modelled after Microwave II.
It also offers different filter typs (even resonator), LFO, Waveshaper, Amp and a specific delay.
I bought it with the Waldorf Edition years ago but did not make use of it because I have alrady enough analog VSTis.
But now it's time for it.
And I have to say that it blow me away.
What a fantastic combination !!!
Even the harshest and digital patches in Serum sound wonderfull analog styled !
Simply chain it after Serum or use some effect-buses for different D-Pol instances with different analog presets.
And the best is D-Pol is now very cheap, in 64bit and without any dongle.

Here a little extract from the manual:

Waldorf D-Pole


Introduction

We have taken great care to make D-Pole simple-to-use and give it an outstanding sound. Please take the time to read this short user manual to make the most of its functions.
The Waldorf D-Pole is based on the filter algorithm used in the Waldorf Microwave II. This filter algorithm makes D-Pole behave and sound like an analog filter. In other words, although D-Pole is a piece of software that runs on your computer, you will hardly ever get the idea that it is in fact a digital filter. You can of course use D-Pole to achieve effects that analog filters cannot create. When developing D-Pole we decided
not to suppress these digital side effects, as they add nicely to the versatility of D-Pole.
D-Pole ’s filter algorithm can create resonance until self-oscillation! Just feed it a short audio signal and the filter will oscillate “forever” (or until you decrease resonance). In contrast to the Microwave II filters, D-Pole does not allow for a feedback of more than 100%, as this would not be a useful feature for a constantly operating software plug-in.
Another D-Pole component is its amplifier. It has the obligatory volume and panning controls and additionally offers you an overdrive effect.
D-Pole features a control that lets you reduce the sample rate used to read the input signal. This allows for interesting digital effects.
There is a modulatable ring modulator that you can use to mix up the frequency ranges of the signal in- and output.
D-Pole’s stereo delay provides the necessary impression of space and can also be used for Karplus/Strong type synthesis.

Another D-Pole highlight is its integrated LFO. It can be started in sync to the audio signal and offers a maximum frequency of more than 7000 Hz. This probably makes it the fastest LFO currently available in a digital system.
Last but not least: the envelope follower. It is rarely found in modern systems although its function is simple and efficient. We felt that it was our duty to revive it in D-Pole.
Have fun using the Waldorf D-Pole.

Your Waldorf Team

[V0RT3X]

Just out of curiosity, but can Serum load Komplexer .wt files?

[contrast]

Can someone remind me how to make fine adjustments to controls? shift-drag doesn't work (#1 fr please fix ).

Also, is it just me or does it cut off same notes, causing clicks? What I mean is, if you have a simple CEG block chord, and set up a simple clean patch with sines that doesn't click and has some release, then place several of those chords back to back, you seem to get clicks because the previous C, E, and G get instantly killed when the new ones start?

[Sampleconstruct]

Can someone remind me how to make fine adjustments to controls? shift-drag doesn't work (#1 fr please fix ).

Also, is it just me or does it cut off same notes, causing clicks? What I mean is, if you have a simple CEG block chord, and set up a simple clean patch with sines that doesn't click and has some release, then place several of those chords back to back, you seem to get clicks because the previous C, E, and G get instantly killed when the new ones start?

Check the polyphony settings, sounds like a stealing voice issue.

[contrast]

Poly is at 16 and the problem goes away if the notes are changed so that they aren't the same for the second chord.

[zerocrossing]

They all do when compared to Zebra, Diva, or Dune2. The only filters that sound halfway decent with high resonance are the german and french LP filters, but even they don't sound all that spectacular in my opinion, the gain staging "drive" knob just doesn't really add enough saturation to any of them. This has nothing to do with the oscillators, I'm using a simple saw wave to test them.

Yeah, this is the exact conclusion I came to, but I actually thought the german and french LP filters were pretty good. Ultimately, filters on a wavetable synth are less important than on a standard subtractive, but I wouldn't mind a second pass at those filters.

[Sampleconstruct]

Poly is at 16 and the problem goes away if the notes are changed so that they aren't the same for the second chord.

I only noticed that when you trigger the same note twice and they overlap e.g. in the piano roll of your DAW, they will sometimes hang forever with no way to reset them, maybe a related issue?

[contrast]

Ah, they definitely aren't overlapped in the piano roll, but looking more closely it doesn't happen if I leave even a tiny space between the notes, so it may indeed be a problem with the midi data Bitwig is sending when notes are placed end to end (eg. the result of duplicate). Still, I don't think I've noticed it with other plugins.

[db3]

is it just me or does it cut off same notes

This sounds like something which caught me out. Check global settings "limit polyphony to one of any given note number".