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cb8rwh · Post by **cb8rwh** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:40 am

Another preset demo. Apart from the drums, it's all Serum.

https://soundcloud.com/rich-whitfield/transerum

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:54 am

zerocrossing wrote:
blackflag wrote:They all do when compared to Zebra, Diva, or Dune2. The only filters that sound halfway decent with high resonance are the german and french LP filters, but even they don't sound all that spectacular in my opinion, the gain staging "drive" knob just doesn't really add enough saturation to any of them. This has nothing to do with the oscillators, I'm using a simple saw wave to test them.
Yeah, this is the exact conclusion I came to, but I actually thought the german and french LP filters were pretty good. Ultimately, filters on a wavetable synth are less important than on a standard subtractive, but I wouldn't mind a second pass at those filters.

This was my initial conclusion as well, but after continually opening it up and putz'n around with it I'm learning all kinds of tricks. The filters are very flexible and you can totally trash them it you want to, and in fact, the developer rather brilliantly gave you complete control over all the curves of just about every modulator. I think I'm going to wind up buying this sooner or later at this point. I'm just waiting to see if there will be continued support, if the instabilities get worked out, and the fact of the matter is... i just don't need it right now, I want it. I would have to force myself to make room for it.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:38 pm

Feature request: when creating a wavetable and saving it to the library, the name of the table is displayed in the oscillator header, after reloading the patch, all that is displayed is: ---- is there a reason behind this or could we pretty please see/read, which wavetable is loaded in each osc.
Thank's!

Buka · Post by **Buka** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:56 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:Feature request: when creating a wavetable and saving it to the library, the name of the table is displayed in the oscillator header, after reloading the patch, all that is displayed is: ---- is there a reason behind this or could we pretty please see/read, which wavetable is loaded in each osc.
Thank's!

+1 on this 1

Cheers!

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:06 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
PatchAdamz wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:....."cold filter fantasy".
Hey, I like those words, "cold filter fantasy".

I think this will be the title for my next CD release or band name.

Ladies and Gentleman, introducing, The Cold Filter Fantasy!

Its got a ring to it.
sounds like a band name from the 80s, especially with the "The" at the beginning. The Cold Filter Fantasy featuring MC Serum on the fridge.
Dude, there actually was a Cold Filter Fantasy in the 80's, they toured with Toad The Wet Sprocket.

10 quatloos to the human who makes the first patch called "Cold Filter Fantasy!"

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:21 pm

MorpherX wrote:"Analoger" for Serum

Hi to all,

if somebody thinks the filters of Serum are to harsh and digital (and many are really in this kind) but likes all other in Serum there is a solution until Steve will might offer also more real analog styled filter characteristics.

Waldorf D-Pol FX-VST from the waldorf Edition which is newly updated within the last month.

D-Pol is the ultimate virtual real-analog styled filter modelled after Microwave II.

Not really a solution if you're planning on creating patches with effects or that need a filter per voice. You could put VST effects post Serum, but you'd still just have a single filter for all the voices like a paraphonic synth.

Anyway, I think that either Steve will choose to work on the filter models a bit or decide the characteristics are as he likes them. Either way, I'm OK with it as is. It would be really nice to get a kick-ass multimode analog sounding filter inside Serum (maybe modeled on the SEM or MS20?), but the French and German LP sound pretty good to me and that's that. Like many said, not all synths have to be all things to all people.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:12 pm

One synced sweller a day keeps the analogue away, one patch, played live on HD, 1x Serum, nothing else:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... demo-sonic

Kain · Post by **Kain** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:02 pm

My first track that uses Serum is done! I know this is a bit spammy ... I wish I only used instances of Serum but the sounds I wanted I knew where to find in my Massive presets (I really love those presets I bought from Adam Szabo, I'm a trance liker)

Anyway, I build the bass I used in this track from init in Serum and used two other presets. The lead is that annalogueske lead made by Eekkoo, I really like it. Okay I looked at my FL Studio project again. Two instance of Serum. There was one more but I was not using it. (I'm also using 15 clones of massive to pitch slide indivudal notes in chords, please don't shoot me)

Ah what the hack. In trance the bass and the lead are what everything is about! So good job Serum. Now I know what you guys are thinking: That I could have build these sounds in OSC3X. Well .... probably but I have no idea how and in Serum I figured it out and it sounds GOOD.

https://soundcloud.com/matthijsbos/when ... ols-of-men

I'm proud on this track. 20 hours and it has a beginning, middle and end! So I'm finally at 7 finished track in only 15 years. Yahoooooo

I miss the 2.0 fruityloops demo ... the one where you can't save and have to finish before closing the program.

PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:29 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
PatchAdamz wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:....."cold filter fantasy".
Hey, I like those words, "cold filter fantasy".

I think this will be the title for my next CD release or band name.

Ladies and Gentleman, introducing, The Cold Filter Fantasy!

Its got a ring to it.
sounds like a band name from the 80s, especially with the "The" at the beginning. The Cold Filter Fantasy featuring MC Serum on the fridge.
Dude, there actually was a Cold Filter Fantasy in the 80's, they toured with Toad The Wet Sprocket.
10 quatloos to the human who makes the first patch called "Cold Filter Fantasy!"

I could use some Quatloos the next time I visit the station at Gamma II.
They have some synths there that can only be heard by Galt, Master Thrall of Triskelion.
And Spock when doing the Vulcan mind meld.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:41 am

I cant believe how much cpu taxing this plugin is! Far more than Omnisphere, by a mile. up to 100% with a i74930 6 core on 1 preset!!! wtf!! How can I use this in a session if it maxes my cpu with just 1 freaking sound??
Reading some of these comments I noticed others have same issue.

What baffles me is on their website they state quite clearly: "...so Serum’s oscillator playback has been aggressively optimized using SSE2 instructions to allow for this high-quality playback without taxing your CPU any more than the typical (decent quality) soft synth already does."
Were they on drugs when they wrote that or were they just plain lying? What "typical" decent quality soft synths are they referring to?

Has anyone actually used this thing on a project?

Greg Houston · Post by **Greg Houston** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:49 am

I have 64 instances of Serum in a project at the moment. A fella posted a track in the Xfer forums with 51 instances of Serum a few days ago. I figure I'll be able to get to 80 or 90 before I have to start freezing tracks. If I had 32GB of RAM, 128 instances would be no issue without freezing anything.

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:17 am

^ Wow, what kind of music do you make to need that much? How many playing at the same time?

Greg Houston · Post by **Greg Houston** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:19 am

xx JPRacer xx wrote:^ Wow, what kind of music do you make to need that much? How many playing at the same time?

Cinematic fusion, no more than 4-5 playing at a time.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:37 am

Only 5 fresh Serums in this video, but it seemed enough to me (but my Serum has 64 Bit:

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:40 am

Kinh wrote:I cant believe how much cpu taxing this plugin is! Far more than Omnisphere, by a mile. up to 100% with a i74930 6 core on 1 preset!!! wtf!! How can I use this in a session if it maxes my cpu with just 1 freaking sound??
Reading some of these comments I noticed others have same issue.

What baffles me is on their website they state quite clearly: "...so Serum’s oscillator playback has been aggressively optimized using SSE2 instructions to allow for this high-quality playback without taxing your CPU any more than the typical (decent quality) soft synth already does."
Were they on drugs when they wrote that or were they just plain lying? What "typical" decent quality soft synths are they referring to?

Has anyone actually used this thing on a project?

Were you on drugs when you wrote this?

Official Serum thread!