New Synth Teaser Vid

[Frantz]

I know it's none of my beeswax but I don't like the GUI. Hexy is not sexy.

Well, at least Presswerk looks really good.

[KingTuck]

I know it's none of my beeswax but I don't like the GUI. Hexy is not sexy.

I'll chime in to say that I am fond of the Hive GUI snippets we've seen.

[SWAN808]

it might be similar to sylenth in functionality but the sound of sylenth is quite distinct - and more analogue modelled than people think...Im not certain but I get the idea that Hive is set up to be a more digital hypersaw synth which could perhaps be more like Dune...here is a comparison to show its not just the detune that makes a difference but the Osc also. Serum is matched to Sylenth using a OB8 saw wavetable...

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/10490511-post101.html

[havran]

Glad to see this is generating some buzz.

I like the hexagonal knobs and design.

[xx JPRacer xx]

2014 or 2015?

[zvenx]

I find u-he synths never fail to completely astonish me. Class by themselves. Looking forward to this.
Rsp

[pdxindy]

I find u-he synths never fail to disappoint me.

[zvenx]

double post.

rsp

[zvenx]

my goodness.
I said the opposite of what I meant.




so embarrassing.

rsp

[Urs]

the sound of sylenth is quite distinct - and more analogue modelled than people think..

I disagree.

Sylenth uses mipmapped wavetables. The wavetables switch (as opposed to crossfade) depending on frequency, there are two per octave. The supersaw detune is not bound by any certain law because it is different for each voice (randomly chosen in a lookup table?)

The forward path of the filter has no distortion. The saturation (regardless if "Warm Drive" is on or not) sits in front of the filter. The resonance path of the filter has a 3rd order distortion so that the filter is capable of self oscillation, once excited. From the amount of aliasing (which is very low for a non-oversampled filter) we can exactly determine the maximum gain of the resonance. I believe that Warm Dive also changes the waveshaper in the feedback path because the filter cutoff gets attenuated a bit. This also points to a naive filter with a unit delay (as opposed to solved zero delay feedback), which was state of the art at that time.

Nothing points at analogue modeling, just really clever choice of standard features.

:-p

edit: and also, I think the way it's set up is actually beneficial for its sound. Analogue modeling would possibly be a hinderance.

[Urs]

I find u-he synths never fail to disappoint me.

[zvenx]

lol.........'thanks' Urs for adding to the embarrassment....

you know I meant the complete opposite.

sigh

rsp

[Urs]

lol.........'thanks' Urs for adding to the embarrassment....

you know I meant the complete opposite.

Of course we do. I didn't realise it at first read either

[SWAN808]

the sound of sylenth is quite distinct - and more analogue modelled than people think..

I disagree.

Sylenth uses mipmapped wavetables. The wavetables switch (as opposed to crossfade) depending on frequency, there are two per octave. The supersaw detune is not bound by any certain law because it is different for each voice (randomly chosen in a lookup table?)

The forward path of the filter has no distortion. The saturation (regardless if "Warm Drive" is on or not) sits in front of the filter. The resonance path of the filter has a 3rd order distortion so that the filter is capable of self oscillation, once excited. From the amount of aliasing (which is very low for a non-oversampled filter) we can exactly determine the maximum gain of the resonance. I believe that Warm Dive also changes the waveshaper in the feedback path because the filter cutoff gets attenuated a bit. This also points to a naive filter with a unit delay (as opposed to solved zero delay feedback), which was state of the art at that time.

Nothing points at analogue modeling, just really clever choice of standard features.

:-p

edit: and also, I think the way it's set up is actually beneficial for its sound. Analogue modeling would possibly be a hinderance.

Hi Urs I wasnt really meaning in a technical sense but more that it models analogue synths (as opposed to other unison synths)...whatever the method - its plain saw waves sound more 'analogue' and very similar to an OB8 saw in serum - compared to the much cleaner digital VA sounds of the synths I compared it to (audio in the link of post)...I need to check tho - if this is slightly due to the 12db filter taking the highs off a tad...might of been making it sound more vintage...perhaps it was that and the random detune you mention that make it 'sound' more analogue...still - whatever it does - it works quite well...

[Urs]

it might be similar to sylenth in functionality but the sound of sylenth is quite distinct - and more analogue modelled than people think...Im not certain but I get the idea that Hive is set up to be a more digital hypersaw synth which could perhaps be more like Dune...here is a comparison to show its not just the detune that makes a difference but the Osc also. Serum is matched to Sylenth using a OB8 saw wavetable...

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/10490511-post101.html

Very good example. I agree that Sylenth sounds strongest in this, but not necessarily the most pleasing. The Dune example doesn't seem to have full stereo panning, it sounds like voices are spread evenly in the stereo panorama.