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VirusTI82 · Post by **VirusTI82** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:00 pm

@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

Don't take Sylenth1 as reference.
Better take Synapse Dune2 as reference.

Blue-eyed Blonde Ape · Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:02 pm

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psycha0s · Post by **psycha0s** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:41 pm

VirusTI82 wrote:@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

For me it does matter, but sound quality is important, of course. There is already a bunch of cpu-intensive synths with high sound quality. Personally, I want to use several instances of plugin instead of 1-3 voices from cpu-eating monster.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:23 am

VirusTI82 wrote:@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

Don't take Sylenth1 as reference.
Better take Synapse Dune2 as reference.

Hive with Diva-like CPU hunger would be really pointless.

If you want Dune2-quality, then why not just use Dune2?

I'm sure Sylenth1-fatness is fat enought for most people.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:32 am

VirusTI82 wrote:@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

Don't take Sylenth1 as reference.
Better take Synapse Dune2 as reference.

Well… if we take aliasing as an objective measure for sound quality, Sylenth beats Dune in oscillators. If we take bandwidth as a measure, Dune beats Sylenth. It's all about compromise, and I think we found our own.

For most of Hive we don't take any other synth as a reference. We just make sure that Hive excells at certain sounds, i.e. we verify that Hive doesn't "fall apart" where others don't. But we won't model any part of the synth exactly after something else, as this IMHO would mean a step backwards.

We did however do a comprehensive analysis of what we don't like about certain synths, and we'll try to avoid doing the same mistakes.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:35 am

2ZrgE wrote:Hive with Diva-like CPU hunger would be really pointless.

Indeed. Diva does Diva best. Hive won't magically sound like Diva at a fraction of the CPU.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:56 am

Dont want to see a copy of something else. I want something new, clean and simple from urs.

Dune, Diva and sylenth are already available.

eXode · Post by **eXode** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:51 am

Urs wrote:
VirusTI82 wrote:@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

Don't take Sylenth1 as reference.
Better take Synapse Dune2 as reference.

Well… if we take aliasing as an objective measure for sound quality, Sylenth beats Dune in oscillators. If we take bandwidth as a measure, Dune beats Sylenth. It's all about compromise, and I think we found our own.

Are you speaking of DUNE now, and not DUNE2?

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:55 am

I would appreciate dragging mod sources like serum has. Best way to do it in my opinion. I also would like more then 6 mod slots

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:53 am

eXode wrote:
Urs wrote:
VirusTI82 wrote:@ Urs,

For me the most important is the Sound Quality of Hive.
It doesn't matter how much cpu Hive use.

I want fat sound quality.

Don't take Sylenth1 as reference.
Better take Synapse Dune2 as reference.

Well… if we take aliasing as an objective measure for sound quality, Sylenth beats Dune in oscillators. If we take bandwidth as a measure, Dune beats Sylenth. It's all about compromise, and I think we found our own.
Are you speaking of DUNE now, and not DUNE2?

Errm, I've only ever tried Dune2. Why?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:53 am

ddeez wrote:I would appreciate dragging mod sources like serum has. Best way to do it in my opinion. I also would like more then 6 mod slots

We're going to do 12 and tab them in two groups.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:54 am

Kriminal wrote:Dont want to see a copy of something else. I want something new, clean and simple from urs.

Dune, Diva and sylenth are already available.

Exactly my thought.

There'll be plenty of "unique" in Hive.

paterpeter · Post by **paterpeter** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:57 am

Urs wrote:
ddeez wrote:I would appreciate dragging mod sources like serum has. Best way to do it in my opinion. I also would like more then 6 mod slots
We're going to do 12 and tab them in two groups.

martingifford · Post by **martingifford** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:02 am

I think the main point about sound quality is that it should sound as good as or better than Sylenth, not Diva. All the talk about priorising low CPU usage frightens me into thinking Hive will sound worse than Sylenth.

I don't want to repeatedly hear, "Sylenth sounds better than Hive, so I'll stick with Sylenth even though it has a worse filing system."

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:23 am

martingifford wrote:
I don't want to repeatedly hear, "Sylenth sounds better than Hive, so I'll stick with Sylenth even though it has a worse filing system."

Some people will say that no matter what.

People do also say that Sylenth sounds better than a Virus Ti, which is ridiculous.

Just wait and trust your own ears..

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