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Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:47 am

Here is another example of the filters then, not unique but still good.

https://soundcloud.com/majestic_dawn/sylenth-filters-2

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:23 am

Aiynzahev wrote:
mysticvibes wrote:Seems people are mentioning sylenth alot, even though it does great supersaws types of sounds it is the filters and drive section that make sylenth special imo. Not to mention the punchy envelopes. Would like to hear more about these parts for the upcoming synth Hive.
I agree, I did mention the envelopes earlier. IMO that is the real standout feature. Even simple patches are punchy. It's just extremely fast and responsive.

I concur with this too.

I think that unless you spend time creating 'that' type of music you won't inherently get why Sylenth became so popular.

The drive and envelope/filters do have a certain snap.

Forgive me for putting this in here, but the first patch in this demo is exactly the kind of sound I'm talking about, and one that I often find difficult to replicate in other synths.

https://soundcloud.com/bluffmunkey/bank ... mo/s-MKWIw

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:27 am

tehlord, is your link set to private?

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:31 am

Sorry, just changed it. That's an old bank that's no longer available in that form so I had it private

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:37 am

Urs wrote:I've built a small modal synth for testing stuff. All in all it just sounds merely like a Zebra feature than a Hive one.

I'd love to see modal synthesis in Z3.

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:37 am

i hate to say it but i dont think those bells sound very good. Just in terms of sound quality...and no the mp3 isnt changing what im hearing...unless the mp3 is a 96 kbps type thing. I really hope hive has some oversampling option or something to make the sounds more hi fi. just my 2 cents. I think u-he makes the best sounding synths on the market...dont want that to change with this release.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:42 am

hakey wrote:
Urs wrote:I've built a small modal synth for testing stuff. All in all it just sounds merely like a Zebra feature than a Hive one.
I'd love to see modal synthesis in Z3.

I think you will.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:45 am

ddeez wrote:i hate to say it but i dont think those bells sound very good. Just in terms of sound quality...and no the mp3 isnt changing what im hearing...unless the mp3 is a 96 kbps type thing. I really hope hive has some oversampling option or something to make the sounds more hi fi. just my 2 cents. I think u-he makes the best sounding synths on the market...dont want that to change with this release.

Oversampling won't help in that case.

The bells were done with a very rudimentary test environment that I coded in two days. I think it needs another month of fine tuning, so we rather drop that idea for now, and bring it back later, maybe elsewhere.

I'll post proper example mp3s in a few days.

- Urs

blackflag · Post by **blackflag** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:19 pm

So what exactly is modal synthesis? Is it mainly used for physical modeling? The only time I've seen it mentioned is with some reaktor synths.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:29 pm

blackflag wrote:So what exactly is modal synthesis? Is it mainly used for physical modeling? The only time I've seen it mentioned is with some reaktor synths.

It's about constructing a sound with a large number of resonators that do a single frequency each, as opposed to using delay lines (or wavetables). As each resonator operates at its own frequency it can do non-harmonic overtones to any fundamental frequency. It's therefore good for natural sounds such as bells and mallets.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:36 pm

mysticvibes wrote:Seems people are mentioning sylenth alot, even though it does great supersaws types of sounds it is the filters and drive section that make sylenth special imo. Not to mention the punchy envelopes. Would like to hear more about these parts for the upcoming synth Hive.

I don't like it all that much myself sound wise. It is well behaved with gain and drive though... it is nicely crafted and level balanced making it easy to use.

ddeez · Post by **ddeez** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:07 pm

Ok thx for the response urs

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:01 pm

pdxindy wrote:
mysticvibes wrote:Seems people are mentioning sylenth alot, even though it does great supersaws types of sounds it is the filters and drive section that make sylenth special imo. Not to mention the punchy envelopes. Would like to hear more about these parts for the upcoming synth Hive.
I don't like it all that much myself sound wise. It is well behaved with gain and drive though... it is nicely crafted and level balanced making it easy to use.

Spot on. It seems that the combination of the limits of technology combined with availability and low cost of plugins have fostered a generation of EDM that doesn't use filters in a way that exposes their weaknesses, so, people think that many older synths that have filters that sound good producing the kinds of sounds that don't push the filters, have decent filters when, in fact, by today's standards, the filters are quite average.

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:26 pm

Urs, will Hive be available to buy or preorder within the time limit ( one month) of the coupon. Evan a preorder would be great if it is only a matter of weeks TX.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:28 pm

woodsdenis wrote:Urs, will Hive be available to buy or preorder within the time limit ( one month) of the coupon. Evan a preorder would be great if it is only a matter of weeks TX.

We try. I think Rob will work something out somehow.

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