Programming question (bazille)
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
While i'm far from really "programming" bazille-Sounds I've started tweaking some sounds.
A situation that reoccurs is that when adressing some mod.targets to the modwheel (e.g. Cutoff etc.) ist that since the sound gets sharper it's also (perceived as) louder.
Is there an easy way for a routing that lowers the overall volume but - and that's the crucial point - keeps the (volume) relations between all oscillators constant; also if they have a different level?
I've tried that routing: mod wheel > inverter > multi plex > filter gain (for both used filters)
which of course isn't exactly the same.
Is there a routing that addresses the sum?
A situation that reoccurs is that when adressing some mod.targets to the modwheel (e.g. Cutoff etc.) ist that since the sound gets sharper it's also (perceived as) louder.
Is there an easy way for a routing that lowers the overall volume but - and that's the crucial point - keeps the (volume) relations between all oscillators constant; also if they have a different level?
I've tried that routing: mod wheel > inverter > multi plex > filter gain (for both used filters)
which of course isn't exactly the same.
Is there a routing that addresses the sum?
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
There are other ways that don't require using the inverter...
1) Negatively modulate oscillator volumes from mod wheel
2) Patch the final sound through a multiplex (righthand socket!) and modulate from mod wheel
3) ... more (would need to think a bit)
1) Negatively modulate oscillator volumes from mod wheel
2) Patch the final sound through a multiplex (righthand socket!) and modulate from mod wheel
3) ... more (would need to think a bit)
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
Thank you for the answer!
The problem with 1) is that i have already a (positive valued) envelope modulating the oscillator.
Im thinking about 2) I could route the two inputs of output 1 (and same for out2) to a multiplex; and then multiplex > output, while using the modwheel as a modulation source.
Now, how can i set the amount of the modwheel (since i want to finetune the amount in a way that i perceive a constant volume)?
The problem with 1) is that i have already a (positive valued) envelope modulating the oscillator.
Im thinking about 2) I could route the two inputs of output 1 (and same for out2) to a multiplex; and then multiplex > output, while using the modwheel as a modulation source.
Now, how can i set the amount of the modwheel (since i want to finetune the amount in a way that i perceive a constant volume)?
- KVRAF
- 26995 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Envelope added to inverted Modwheel in a multiplexArrested Developer wrote:Thank you for the answer!
The problem with 1) is that i have already a (positive valued) envelope modulating the oscillator.
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
Thanks, pdxindy!
i haven't enough free Multiplexes; but i saw that i can also route the Modwheel directly to the Env (also with negative values)
A direct (scalable) way to affect Out 1 & 2 would be great indeed.
i haven't enough free Multiplexes; but i saw that i can also route the Modwheel directly to the Env (also with negative values)
A direct (scalable) way to affect Out 1 & 2 would be great indeed.
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
You can usually save one or two by studying your patch for a while - opportunities to simplify are waiting to be discoveredArrested Developer wrote:I haven't enough free Multiplexes
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
ok, it wasn't that complicated as i thought.
Simply had to adress modwheel with a negative amount to the envelope that's controlling the output...
Thanks Howard and pdxindy for the hints...
Simply had to adress modwheel with a negative amount to the envelope that's controlling the output...
Thanks Howard and pdxindy for the hints...
- KVRAF
- 26995 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
You can use Filter 3 and/or 4 as an add module... and the filter controls make a cool signal shaperArrested Developer wrote:Thanks, pdxindy!
i haven't enough free Multiplexes;
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
thanks again, pdxindy!
i hope that i'll have some time around christmas to dive deeper into the manual...
i hope that i'll have some time around christmas to dive deeper into the manual...
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Easy - adjust the righthand knob in that multiplexArrested Developer wrote:Now, how can i set the amount of the modwheel (since i want to finetune the amount in a way that i perceive a constant volume)?
