U-HE Hive
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- KVRian
- 737 posts since 20 Sep, 2006
urs can u describe the general sound of Hive compared to the other general sound of the uhe synths? Is it going to be brighter in general? more top end? still not alias obviously? let us know
- u-he
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
It'll sound similar to Zebra with the "crisp" mode on for oscillators. We use a technique that will have some aliasing, but not in the audible spectrum. I.e. aliasing stops above 18+ kHz. There might (might!) be a mode that introduces more aliasing as a feature (!), but not of the metallic low dumbing type.
Filters open okay. Not fully, but higher than, say, the other synth. Aliasing in the current model is barely audible when resonance is cranked up fully. Less than other synths, but still a tad more so than, say, Bazille or ACE. I reckon. Haven't really made that comparison yet.
All in all I think Hive will have very competitive objective sonic properties. The filters won't have Diva's character, but they will be in Bazille's league (i.e. less "analogue" but very "musical").
Filters open okay. Not fully, but higher than, say, the other synth. Aliasing in the current model is barely audible when resonance is cranked up fully. Less than other synths, but still a tad more so than, say, Bazille or ACE. I reckon. Haven't really made that comparison yet.
All in all I think Hive will have very competitive objective sonic properties. The filters won't have Diva's character, but they will be in Bazille's league (i.e. less "analogue" but very "musical").
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 15 Oct, 2008 from Germany
My pet bat is not amused!Urs wrote:It'll sound similar to Zebra with the "crisp" mode on for oscillators. We use a technique that will have some aliasing, but not in the audible spectrum. I.e. aliasing stops above 18+ kHz.
I'm looking forward to some audio examples.
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- KVRian
- 585 posts since 20 Jun, 2005
And less priceKriminal wrote:More top end, more bottom end, more saws, more pwm, more quality.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I'm not really familiar with Bazille. Would you say that the character of the filter is similar to that of other plugins like Synthmaster, Dune, Spire, Sylenth? I know they all have different character, but they're all pretty digital i would say, in the sense of not exactly mimicing analog filters. I like that digital characer, that's why i'm asking. As long as it's not too digital, metallic, harsh and cold.Urs wrote: All in all I think Hive will have very competitive objective sonic properties. The filters won't have Diva's character, but they will be in Bazille's league (i.e. less "analogue" but very "musical").
- u-he
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
No, I don't think so. But then I haven't really spent much/any time with these.chk071 wrote:Would you say that the character of the filter is similar to that of other plugins like Synthmaster, Dune, Spire, Sylenth?
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- Banned
- 18651 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England
chk071 wrote:I'm not really familiar with Bazille. Would you say that the character of the filter is similar to that of other plugins like Synthmaster, Dune, Spire, Sylenth? I know they all have different character, but they're all pretty digital i would say, in the sense of not exactly mimicing analog filters. I like that digital characer, that's why i'm asking. As long as it's not too digital, metallic, harsh and cold.Urs wrote: All in all I think Hive will have very competitive objective sonic properties. The filters won't have Diva's character, but they will be in Bazille's league (i.e. less "analogue" but very "musical").
Dune2 has several diff filters. Most of which i believe are modelled on analogue filters. I couldnt tell you how close they are as i dont have the hardware to compare.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ok, maybe i didn't express it correctly. As far as i understand, most digital filters mimic analog behavior anyway. What i mean is, say, the difference between the filters of, as we talk of u-he synths, Tyrell N6, and Zebra or ZebraCM. While the filter in Tyrell is clearly behaving like an analog filter, the filters in Zebra are more on the digital side, not so resonant and more "behaved" (don't know how to express it differently). An extreme example for digital would be Z3ta, where it's really no fun to play around with the filter on high resonance settings, and it totally screams, and there's not much of a gain reduction either. There are many example of well sounding (typical) digital filters though, like in Spire, Sylenth, and Dune 2 also.
- u-he
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
You'll love Hive's resonance.chk071 wrote:Ok, maybe i didn't express it correctly. As far as i understand, most digital filters mimic analog behavior anyway. What i mean is, say, the difference between the filters of, as we talk of u-he synths, Tyrell N6, and Zebra or ZebraCM. While the filter in Tyrell is clearly behaving like an analog filter, the filters in Zebra are more on the digital side, not so resonant and more "behaved" (don't know how to express it differently). An extreme example for digital would be Z3ta, where it's really no fun to play around with the filter on high resonance settings, and it totally screams, and there's not much of a gain reduction either. There are many example of well sounding (typical) digital filters though, like in Spire, Sylenth, and Dune 2 also.
- KVRAF
- 8237 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Not sure if it's been asked, but can the LFO's be bipolar?
I miss that from some of the other ones.
I miss that from some of the other ones.
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- u-he
- 30192 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Our LFOs are always bipolar. We're going to add a unipolar switch though. One day. Maybe next year.tehlord wrote:Not sure if it's been asked, but can the LFO's be bipolar?
I miss that from some of the other ones.
