Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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- KVRAF
- 3161 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
No problem runaudio 
I don't wish to distract Jo too much over such a minor point, but when I get time I will post two pics to fully explain as there is still confusion over it.
Regarding the font, for my text editor I found corbel to be an easy on the eye solution. Obviously this won't suit all but that's why an option to choose your preference is probably the best idea.
I don't wish to distract Jo too much over such a minor point, but when I get time I will post two pics to fully explain as there is still confusion over it.
Regarding the font, for my text editor I found corbel to be an easy on the eye solution. Obviously this won't suit all but that's why an option to choose your preference is probably the best idea.
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Agreed. I go for DejaVu Sans or DejaVu Sans Mono for virtually everything. But it's not going to be everyone's idea of nice. The big problem with a choice of fonts is that it makes the whole UI need to be resizeable. Fonts can be taller or wider than the "default", so the screen elements need to adjust and still retain their relative layout. Hopefully that's not too much of an issue for Jo's UI toolkit.
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- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
I'm always confident in Jo to find a nice solution for everyone. It can't be always the ideal solution of course but we know that Jo chooses always a good compromise.
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- KVRAF
- 3161 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
@pljones ~
I forgot about fonts needing different sizes for gui parts! Hopefully isn't too much of an issue?
I forgot about fonts needing different sizes for gui parts! Hopefully isn't too much of an issue?
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- KVRAF
- 3161 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Ok, as I said above, here are the pics and detailed description for you Jo. It's only a minor thing and just my personal opinion, so I'm not expecting anything to change! But here goes anyway...
This first image is of the Transport. Noticed that the Play, Loop and Metronome buttons are 'pressed.' Notice also that when these buttons are pressed the icon on the button is coloured green and the background is darkened green. The icon is coloured according to the Looks preference whilst the background, I assume, is set to the same colour but with a darker tone to it. It produces a nice effect that makes it look quite good.
Now onto the other buttons. I posted a shot of the main buttons on the top left of the window, but this is far from the limits of where these buttons are applied. They appear throughout MuX windows, though it doesn't look as bad as these buttons on the 'main toolbar.' Possibly because the MuX buttons are smaller?
My colour scheme may not suit, but I have tried several and this is my preference. Adding colour is a great idea, but... it needs to be subtle as the transport buttons are rather than in your face as the main toolbar buttons appear.
These buttons look plain and unfinished in that they appear thrown together for function. Perhaps you wanted to keep the 'pressed' image different from the Transport so as to differentiate them easily? Personally I think something like the transport buttons should be added to the main toolbar as I think it looks unprofessional. Just my opinion though, and it's only a minor thing.
This first image is of the Transport. Noticed that the Play, Loop and Metronome buttons are 'pressed.' Notice also that when these buttons are pressed the icon on the button is coloured green and the background is darkened green. The icon is coloured according to the Looks preference whilst the background, I assume, is set to the same colour but with a darker tone to it. It produces a nice effect that makes it look quite good.
Now onto the other buttons. I posted a shot of the main buttons on the top left of the window, but this is far from the limits of where these buttons are applied. They appear throughout MuX windows, though it doesn't look as bad as these buttons on the 'main toolbar.' Possibly because the MuX buttons are smaller?
My colour scheme may not suit, but I have tried several and this is my preference. Adding colour is a great idea, but... it needs to be subtle as the transport buttons are rather than in your face as the main toolbar buttons appear.
These buttons look plain and unfinished in that they appear thrown together for function. Perhaps you wanted to keep the 'pressed' image different from the Transport so as to differentiate them easily? Personally I think something like the transport buttons should be added to the main toolbar as I think it looks unprofessional. Just my opinion though, and it's only a minor thing.
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I guess they're indicating something different. The transport "pause" and "loop" buttons and the "metronome" button say what something is doing, whereas the view buttons say what is showing. They're lit up to say "on display" rather than pushed in to say "active". To me, it makes sense to differentiate. They could maybe do with a little more fade... it's not as obvious as on the position/tempo displays... Then the "off" versions would need changing to look more like "unlit" lights...
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- KVRAF
- 3161 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
Yeah I guessed why they were like that but just think they could be a little more subtle and maybe less 'thrown-together-quick-as-possible' than they do.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
What about making the bevel a bit more prominent, although that kind of takes it further away from the cleaner/simpler style.
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Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Not really -- the edge wouldn't go dark as it got nearer the now-lit bulb behind the plastic... it would simply diffract it in a different way to the flatter part of the surface. That's why I think the "off" lights don't look right 
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- KVRAF
- 3161 posts since 28 Mar, 2008 from a Galaxy S7 far far away
I don't mind the lit button but the unlit ones don't look quite right. Perhaps half the size bezel? I didn't even think of trying to edit the skin myself might look into that see if I can come up with something
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Not sure its possible to edit them as yet ( other than just colours ) it was just a screen grab and quick botch up in paint to show what it could look like.
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I really don't see what's wrong with them. At the contrary they look very good to me. And i compared them to many other buttons in other apps.sl23 wrote:I don't mind the lit button but the unlit ones don't look quite right
The only thing i'm open to atm is that maybe i'll extent color customization so that you can do buttons with on-state with dark color and some light text color. But not top prio atm.
Edit: To avoid confusion: I appreciate your feedback sl23, i also asked for it. And i evaluated it. But i disagree on topic, respectfully. Thanks for your feedback!
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- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
No the beveling is not editable.bibz1st wrote:Not sure its possible to edit them as yet ( other than just colours )