Erratic patch broswer
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- KVRAF
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
I've got CK's Flexoid synth loaded in a rack with its UI open, Flexoid doesnt have its own patch browser so have to use Mulabs.
I click the preset window and as soon as I move the mouse pointer onto the list, the list resets to the top (shows the first 33 or so presets) and if I move the pointer to the bottom of the list without even clicking, the list will then display presets further down the list.
I can intentionally scroll using the mouse wheel and also using the drag bar and select whichever preset I want no problem but it does seem to be a problem with some of my vst's, not with Mulabs synth.
Is it Mulab or the vsts or a setting I have not seen ?
I do stress that its more of an annoyance than a problem.
This is using 32 bit Mulab with 32 bit vst's
Hope you can understand what I mean
I click the preset window and as soon as I move the mouse pointer onto the list, the list resets to the top (shows the first 33 or so presets) and if I move the pointer to the bottom of the list without even clicking, the list will then display presets further down the list.
I can intentionally scroll using the mouse wheel and also using the drag bar and select whichever preset I want no problem but it does seem to be a problem with some of my vst's, not with Mulabs synth.
Is it Mulab or the vsts or a setting I have not seen ?
I do stress that its more of an annoyance than a problem.
This is using 32 bit Mulab with 32 bit vst's
Hope you can understand what I mean
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
So that we can try to reproduce the behavior, you have which exact version of Mulab (6.1.32?) and which exact version of X-Jupitae Flexoid (1.14?)bibz1st wrote:I've got CK's Flexoid synth loaded in a rack with its UI open, Flexoid doesnt have its own patch browser so have to use Mulabs.
I click the preset window and as soon as I move the mouse pointer onto the list, the list resets to the top (shows the first 33 or so presets) and if I move the pointer to the bottom of the list without even clicking, the list will then display presets further down the list.
I can intentionally scroll using the mouse wheel and also using the drag bar and select whichever preset I want no problem but it does seem to be a problem with some of my vst's, not with Mulabs synth.
Is it Mulab or the vsts or a setting I have not seen ?
I do stress that its more of an annoyance than a problem.
This is using 32 bit Mulab with 32 bit vst's
Hope you can understand what I mean
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Yes both are the latest versions, I should also say I'm on Win 7 64 bit if that will help at all.
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Ive attached a little .gif video if that helps show whats happening
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Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
Confirmed.
I've just reproduced this weird behavior with your new infos. In exactly the same conditions.

I've just reproduced this weird behavior with your new infos. In exactly the same conditions.
Build your life everyday as if you would live for a thousand years. Marvel at the Life everyday as if you would die tomorrow.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1925 posts since 29 Mar, 2013
Wasnt sure if it had something to do with vst's that dont have built in patch browsers, but then I'm no expert, just guessing
Beauty is only skin deep,
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
Ugliness, however, goes right the way through
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
I've just tested with other synths too.
With Gunar Ekornas Messiah it goes down page by page instead of line by line. It's a bit deconcerting, especially because the movement is so rapid that one has not the time to stop it in the correct position.
With TubeOhm Alpha-Ray the same.
With BlauKraut Charlatan the same
With nuSofting daHornet the same.
With e-Phonic Drumatic 4 the same.
With Xhun Audio IronAxe the same.
With Adam Szabo JP6K the same.
With Gunar Ekornas MinimogueVA the same.
With Full Bucket Music Nabla and Deputy Mark the same.
With The Interruptor Night Flight the same.
Etc.
Some of these above are SynthEdit but some others are not, so it's not SynthEdit in cause.
And some of these above are with internal preset management but some others are not, so it's not the internal preset management of these plugins which is in cause.
No I simply think that it would be better that the scroll by Mulab was line by line instead than page by page (to get quicker we always have the mouse wheel). It probably would resolve the problem I think. And in your machine you probably don't even see the scrolling by page because your computer is perhaps yet more fast than mine. I'm sure that it's why you don't even see the scroll and I can see it. I can see it because my computer is perhaps older (or less powerful) than yours so mine has the time to show the scroll (but already too fast anyway to let the time to release the mouse button) and yours has even not the time because certainly even faster than mine.
Jo? You would agree with that very simple modification?

With Gunar Ekornas Messiah it goes down page by page instead of line by line. It's a bit deconcerting, especially because the movement is so rapid that one has not the time to stop it in the correct position.
With TubeOhm Alpha-Ray the same.
With BlauKraut Charlatan the same
With nuSofting daHornet the same.
With e-Phonic Drumatic 4 the same.
With Xhun Audio IronAxe the same.
With Adam Szabo JP6K the same.
With Gunar Ekornas MinimogueVA the same.
With Full Bucket Music Nabla and Deputy Mark the same.
With The Interruptor Night Flight the same.
Etc.
Some of these above are SynthEdit but some others are not, so it's not SynthEdit in cause.
And some of these above are with internal preset management but some others are not, so it's not the internal preset management of these plugins which is in cause.
No I simply think that it would be better that the scroll by Mulab was line by line instead than page by page (to get quicker we always have the mouse wheel). It probably would resolve the problem I think. And in your machine you probably don't even see the scrolling by page because your computer is perhaps yet more fast than mine. I'm sure that it's why you don't even see the scroll and I can see it. I can see it because my computer is perhaps older (or less powerful) than yours so mine has the time to show the scroll (but already too fast anyway to let the time to release the mouse button) and yours has even not the time because certainly even faster than mine.
Jo? You would agree with that very simple modification?
Build your life everyday as if you would live for a thousand years. Marvel at the Life everyday as if you would die tomorrow.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
I have watched a bit more accurately your video and yes, it is exactly that. Look with a strong attention and you will see a very, very, very short tempo in the movement page by page in the scroll down and in the scroll up.
So I confirm, we have exactly the same weird behavior on your computer and on mine, and yours being certainly a bit more faster than mine.
So if Jo accepts to scroll line by line instead than page by page it will definitively resolve our problem.

So I confirm, we have exactly the same weird behavior on your computer and on mine, and yours being certainly a bit more faster than mine.
So if Jo accepts to scroll line by line instead than page by page it will definitively resolve our problem.
Build your life everyday as if you would live for a thousand years. Marvel at the Life everyday as if you would die tomorrow.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
For me neither.bibz1st wrote:Ok Jo, its not a big problem so no rush for me.
The problem being diagnosed, we know that it's quite easy to turn around in wait of the fix.
Build your life everyday as if you would live for a thousand years. Marvel at the Life everyday as if you would die tomorrow.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
- KVRAF
- 13865 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
- KVRAF
- 4536 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
Thank you Jo!mutools wrote:Fixed in the next version.
Build your life everyday as if you would live for a thousand years. Marvel at the Life everyday as if you would die tomorrow.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
I'm now severely diseased since September 2018.
