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sugo · Post by **sugo** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:56 pm

2ZrgE wrote:The main reason I bought Hive was Urs' claim to keep the CPU use at a minimum - and I really hope he stands to his words while implementing new features. It makes no sense to construct a kind of Zebra-/Diva-/Hive hybrid.

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chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:54 pm

Urs wrote:Diva compromises in CPU usage.
Hive compromises in feature set.
I haven't done a synth that compromises in sound quality.

If it is true than good!!!

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:56 pm

EvilDragon wrote:So another one who doesn't understand the point of Hive...

Explain us the point of Hive!

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:57 pm

2ZrgE wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
The main reason I bought Hive was Urs' claim to keep the CPU use at a minimum - and I really hope he stands to his words while implementing new features. It makes no sense to construct a kind of Zebra-/Diva-/Hive hybrid.

What is the problem in using draft mode in Diva?!!

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:10 pm

What is the problem with the standard quality mode in Hive?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:14 pm

chilly7 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:So another one who doesn't understand the point of Hive...
Explain us the point of Hive!

It's been mentioned several times already. Learn to read.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:00 pm

chilly7 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
chilly7 wrote:I have to admit that it looks like Hive does not sound bad, but if it sounds that good in draft quality mode how good it can sound in divine quality mode like Diva has.
I wonder is Uhe is planing to put ability to select quality modes for Hive?!!
I doubt it... Hive doesn't need it. It doesn't have features that would use it so the extra CPU use would be wasted anyway.

If you want those features and a Divine mode, use Diva.
Correct me if i am wrong but it looks like it has some features which are not awailable in Diva. Also i like how clean and non aggressive it sounds. So again i wonder how good it can sound in the best quality mode.
P.s. I request this feature now because now it is in the work and it will be much more easy to implement this feature but not when it will be done and to implement this feauture will be much harder.

Yes, you are wrong. Certain features require more cpu to sound good. So things like Filter FM, Feedback, Cross Modulation, etc. You will find those things in Diva and it is using those features especially along with high resonance that makes Diva a CPU muncher.

Take Diva and just have a simple 2 Osc patch without those features and low resonance used and you will not hear a difference between draft, fast, great and divine.

With the current features in Hive, if there were a higher 'quality' mode you would hear no difference.

Or put another way, you are making the (false) assumption that because Hive is low CPU that this is achieved through it being in a low quality mode. Hive is already in high quality mode but unlike Diva it does not need the lower quality modes to make it playable on older cpu's.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:23 pm

chilly7 wrote:
2ZrgE wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
The main reason I bought Hive was Urs' claim to keep the CPU use at a minimum - and I really hope he stands to his words while implementing new features. It makes no sense to construct a kind of Zebra-/Diva-/Hive hybrid.
What is the problem in using draft mode in Diva?!!

Nothing, but we're talking Hive here, not Diva.

The premise of Hive was explicitly not to have to use a draft mode on older machines.

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:41 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
chilly7 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:So another one who doesn't understand the point of Hive...
Explain us the point of Hive!
It's been mentioned several times already. Learn to read.

I can not find a place where gathered all information about it but i can not read hangred of pages of all threads.

chilly7 · Post by **chilly7** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:45 pm

pdxindy wrote:
chilly7 wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
chilly7 wrote:I

Or put another way, you are making the (false) assumption that because Hive is low CPU that this is achieved through it being in a low quality mode. Hive is already in high quality mode but unlike Diva it does not need the lower quality modes to make it playable on older cpu's.

Hopefully it is true!!!

Photontic · Post by **Photontic** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:46 pm

chilly7 wrote:Hopefully it is true!!!

It is true.

You assume that the lack of a "HQ setting" means that it's not running in some sort of HQ mode. For Hive the only mode there is, is HQ.

You're asking for a change that will change nothing at all, as people are pointing out. The way Hive works, is to, to put it very simply, create supersaws with very low CPU usage. Overall the point of it is to be very CPU friendly but still create massive sound. And it does just that - and it doesn't need to do anything else (that was never the point of it). If you're not looking for something else, then Hive is not the synth you want, because at the core of it, that's what it is and will always be: A CPU friendly EDM synth with stellar sound and u-he quality dusted all over it.

If you have a specific complaint, then point out what it is and I'm sure Urs and the gang will listen, but right now you're asking for something because you seem to not quite have understood what's going on with the synth.
It sort of reminds me of people asking for 64-bit versions of things, because they assume it will magically make things better, never understanding what making a program 64-bit actually means (what the advantage is). Most plug-ins today don't need to be 64-bit either, they just are because the DAW's are (which makes sense).

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 8:58 pm

Include a "placebo mode" which increases the CPU load by a tiny amount but does nothing. It will make people happy

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:13 pm

Sendy wrote:Include a "placebo mode" which increases the CPU load by a tiny amount but does nothing. It will make people happy

Hahaha, I'd love that

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:28 pm

chilly7 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
chilly7 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:So another one who doesn't understand the point of Hive...
Explain us the point of Hive!
It's been mentioned several times already. Learn to read.
I can not find a place where gathered all information about it but i can not read hangred of pages of all threads.

Try this for a start: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=427890

Fritze · Post by **Fritze** » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:51 pm

Sendy wrote:Include a "placebo mode" which increases the CPU load by a tiny amount but does nothing. It will make people happy

+1
Call it "Silently Your Lush Envelope Nurtures The Hive" mode. Or something like that.

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