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djdeftmonk · Post by **djdeftmonk** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:39 pm

For a long time although I was impressed with Diva (highly impressed) I never purchased Diva due to the fact that I have an extensive collection of hardware synths. When I compared diva to them side by side diva sounded great but sometimes not exactly the same and the cpu was very high. Recently however due to midi issues/whatever the hell other issues along with moving to a smaller studio for rent purposes... I sold all of my analog gear and then decided hey lets buy diva now(off this site oddly enough via license xfer). My opinion after two days of studio use has changed dramatically... Buy this. You won't regret it. It is immeasurably more convenient using a vst rather than external gear via midi and deal with the clock/midi jitter etc much less anything involving automation just forget it. I literally used to ask another person frequently "hey buddy would u mind coming over here and help me on this track? this much information can't pass through midi simultaneously..." then ask him to turn one know with one hand from 3-6 over eight bars and another with the other hand while I do 3-4 knobs and pray for no jitter. And as far as Diva not sounding 100% like my old ms20 or voyager (which isn't that bad because my friends ms20 also sounds different) It sounds damn close and more importantly...sounds awesome. If it isn't a moog, well then its a damn fine analog synth that sounds like a damn moog. For all those non-believer's... I recommend you try this test (which I did today) load diva. dim ur monitor. Set it up to mimic a midi capable hardware synth u have. Map the envelopes filter etc. Call your friend let him play it and see if he notices it is a vst. I bet he doesn't! If Urs is reading this... you are the man and I read in an interview you want to make a spring reverb and a few other things...pls first make an analog rytm / dsi tempest style drum machine. I would pee myself.
Buy Diva.

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:41 pm

hehehe...

And there I'm going back to analog synths more and more, although I own Diva and other very good sounding plugins. It's just analog still sounds different, more lively, 'dirtier', more character. And when recorded thru some real high end gear.... uuuuuuh.... mmmmh...

But I must admit the effort to use them can be very very annoying.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:50 pm

deft_bonz wrote:hehehe...

And there I'm going back to analog synths more and more, although I own Diva and other very good sounding plugins. It's just analog still sounds different, more lively, 'dirtier', more character. And when recorded thru some real high end gear.... uuuuuuh.... mmmmh...

But I must admit the effort to use them can be very very annoying.

Although it is Zebra he speaks of not Diva, some pretty impressive ears disagrees with you.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:55 am
A Very Sad Story:

I'm in the middle of doing an all synth score. We've fixed the CS 80, tuned the Oscilators on the Moog, got the PPG 300 and the Waldorf Wave to make noise again. We are using crazy expensive pre-amps and A to Ds. We are using not just one but two 'Knifoniums' and a 'Schmidt'. 8 Super Jupiters and a Roland system 700.

....and you know what? zebra sounds just as good....

-Hz-

rsp

david.beholder · Post by **david.beholder** » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:42 pm

zvenx wrote:
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:55 am
A Very Sad Story:

I'm in the middle of doing an all synth score. We've fixed the CS 80, tuned the Oscilators on the Moog, got the PPG 300 and the Waldorf Wave to make noise again. We are using crazy expensive pre-amps and A to Ds. We are using not just one but two 'Knifoniums' and a 'Schmidt'. 8 Super Jupiters and a Roland system 700.
....and you know what? zebra sounds just as good....
-Hz-

Reminds me of:

"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug-collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can."

....and you know what? zebra sounds just as good....

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:11 am

zvenx wrote: Although it is Zebra he speaks of not Diva, some pretty impressive ears disagrees with you.

I think you should re-read OPs post

It is about Diva

I couldn't care less if "impressive ears" dissagree. But maybe I should rephrase. Analog synths do sound different (not necessarily better, but different), and to my experience my customers always liked it better.

Also that doesn't mean I will switch completely to analog synths. Not at all.

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:32 am

About Diva, it is likely that some progress have been made since the time of Model-E, me thinks...

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:34 am

Just want to add: Diva and Zebra ARE very good! No doubt about that.

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:52 am

zvenx wrote:Although it is Zebra he speaks of not Diva, some pretty impressive ears disagrees with you.

Whats wrong with your ears mate?

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:25 am

@david.beholder
Fear and loathing, sums up the software analog emulation sector nicely

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:17 pm

deft_bonz wrote:
zvenx wrote: Although it is Zebra he speaks of not Diva, some pretty impressive ears disagrees with you.
I think you should re-read OPs post It is about Diva

I couldn't care less if "impressive ears" dissagree. But maybe I should rephrase. Analog synths do sound different (not necessarily better, but different), and to my experience my customers always liked it better.

Also that doesn't mean I will switch completely to analog synths. Not at all.

No I am saying Hz speaks about Zebra not Diva. I know the OP is speaking about Diva
rsp

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:27 pm

I think HZ is speaking about his Zebra with Diva filters aka ZebraHZ

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:37 pm

zvenx wrote: Although it is Zebra he speaks of not Diva, some pretty impressive ears disagrees with you.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:55 am
A Very Sad Story:

I'm in the middle of doing an all synth score. We've fixed the CS 80, tuned the Oscilators on the Moog, got the PPG 300 and the Waldorf Wave to make noise again. We are using crazy expensive pre-amps and A to Ds. We are using not just one but two 'Knifoniums' and a 'Schmidt'. 8 Super Jupiters and a Roland system 700.

....and you know what? zebra sounds just as good....

-Hz-
rsp

He also said that he uses Cubase because it "sounds better". That shouldn't mean that he has bad ears, i wouldn't in my life claim that, but it's very, very subjective. Just in this thread, we have 2 different opinions of people with probably a lot of experience with both worlds. What can you say.

Apart from maybe that the difference has become so small, that there will always be different opinions about it. From my modest experience with soft synths, i can say that there has been quite a progressions with the latest released soft synths, and with some a bit older ones. I always found that some (older) soft synths have quite a narrow "spectrum" of sounds they can produce, and often tend to have a little bit of a "same"-ish sound. Or the sine wave has no bang, or the noise just sounds cr**py. But there's really some great stuff now, which is probably at least up to par with VA hardware. I especially find there has been a lot of progress with the filters and envelopes.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:41 pm

Urs wrote:I think HZ is speaking about his Zebra with Diva filters aka ZebraHZ

I knew that.

rsp

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