Any Spectrasonics news?

[Compyfox]

The real offender here is Stylus. It's horribly out of date on every level -- sound, interface, programming options. Great for it's time but...that time has passed.

Excuse me?
The "sound" is far from being outdated.

The GUI, yes it is.
Programing options - I still find something new
Loading/Native slicing of WAV/reconverting RMX into REX again - yes, I'd love to see that.

Else, it's still standing it's ground. Even after all these years. And remember what outstanding updates longtime users got.

Sample Import? Sure, it'd be nice.....really nice

A FR for RMX and Omnisphere for years at this point. So it is high on their list. If it will ever happen, lies on another ballpark.

If not, and Ilio is their sole showing... EP is probably headed for the beach for cocktails.

Nah, I think Eric will still be there - just for the fun of it and meeting up with fellows.

Ask for news again in February.

Probably the best decision at this point. Why not revive the other Spectrasonics thread in the process?

[trimph1]

I really don't get the notion of any synth being "outdated"

Does Stylus have an expiry date?

[Vectorman]

Does Stylus have an expiry date?

It's not used up for me yet. I still get some mileage out of the existing Stylus content/libraries and very much like the overall sonic aesthetic. The only thing I will say is that I have to be careful how I use it and steer clear of using the more distinctive loops in an obvious way, just because they've been used to death in film and TV soundtracks for the last decade (I still hear immediately recognizable RMX loops in everything from CW superhero shows to The Property Brothers). Would be great to see a handful of brand new Spectrasonics/ILIO libraries for RMX.

[beely]

Does Stylus have an expiry date?

It's not about Stylus RMX. It's about a company making excellent products that hasn't released anything for *years*, which is why people are shrugging their shoulders and wondering if they are still alive.

And yes, RMX has many many excellent thing about it, but also some poor usability things about it, which is why a major new version, and presumably with new content too, is something that RMX owners would love to see. But if their next product is something else, that's fine too. We'd just like to hear from them.

None of this has any bearing on how much I use my Spectrasonics tools and content - as has been said, their stuff is excellent.

[KLS]

I just got an email from John Lehmkuhl at PlugInGuru. He seems to think that Spectrasonics is going to be making some big announcements at the Winter NAMM show this month. I know that he is pretty plugged in with Eric (PUN!), so maybe this is the case. It makes sense to me. If not at Winter NAMM then we may have to wait another year...... Any thoughts?

[cryophonik]

Any thoughts?

No offense, but this reads to me as "guy on Internet heard from a guy who knows a guy who thinks that something may or may not happen this year." It leaves me right where I've been all along - we'll know something when Spectrasonics actually does something. They've said on several occasions in recent years that they're "working on" something and they'll announce something soon, but so far it's all talk and no action.

[MachineClaw]

Eric P just released a CD worth of music. He stated on Facebook that he wanted to relapse an album for a long time and finally did it.

gospel worship music. It's on iTunes.

Eric P is also building his home studio which he has named Buzzard Breath Studio.

No clue what Spectrasonics is up to but Eric is rather busy independently.

[noiseboyuk]

I just got an email from John Lehmkuhl at PlugInGuru. He seems to think that Spectrasonics is going to be making some big announcements at the Winter NAMM show this month. I know that he is pretty plugged in with Eric (PUN!), so maybe this is the case. It makes sense to me. If not at Winter NAMM then we may have to wait another year...... Any thoughts?

Eric did say quite a while ago that they weren't doing trade shows any more, but who knows? As you say, John and Eric are well connected. Here's hoping.

[ghettosynth]

I really don't get the notion of any synth being "outdated"

Does Stylus have an expiry date?

I think that people are generally referring to technology that has improved with time but is absent from older products. Analog synths without memory were considered "outdated" when those with memory came along, romplers with tiny ROMs were considered outdated as ROMs increased in size allowing for larger sample libraries. That's what people are saying and it holds for software as well. User interface is certainly a key area, but, as you know, there has been a lot of development in terms of analog modeling over the last few years. Also, anything that relies heavily on samples can be viewed as outdated as tastes change. You can still make music with an M1, but, most consider it outdated technology. Don't confuse outdated with useless, they are not synonymous.

[Orbit-50]

I think that people are generally referring to technology that has improved with time but is absent from older products. Analog synths without memory were considered "outdated" when those with memory came along, romplers with tiny ROMs were considered outdated as ROMs increased in size allowing for larger sample libraries. That's what people are saying and it holds for software as well. User interface is certainly a key area, but, as you know, there has been a lot of development in terms of analog modeling over the last few years. Also, anything that relies heavily on samples can be viewed as outdated as tastes change. You can still make music with an M1, but, most consider it outdated technology. Don't confuse outdated with useless, they are not synonymous.

Very well put.

.-.

[GMusic]

"Let's just say we are very excited for 2015 " - Spectrasonics. https://twitter.com/Spectrasonics/statu ... 9755268096

To echo somebody else's post here: Would love to see slight rework of all 3 plugin GUI's (to be less clunky/less wasted blank areas that just take up screen space), perhaps add the macro knobs of Trilian into Omnipshere, and a significant Stylus update (with ability to import .wav, tag samples, ect...)

Count me in on the thinking Stylus is outdated crowd. It's got a cumbersome interface, clunky. To select parts of the loop to edit/apply FX to, you have to use a tiny drop down menu and select the slice(s) with words (e.g. downbeat) Yuck- words!!! Most drum loop tools these days use waveforms, easy to use slice points, ect... Take a look at Image-Line's Slice-X.

While I like the sounds Stylus RMX currently has, it certainly would be nice to have more EDM based drums in there. Considering how huge and eclectic of a genre it is.

[Kaboom75]

They all got charged with murder after making a sample called burning choir.

[hibidy]

I was REALLY bored so I read this thread

It's the same thing. I remember a thread a couple of years ago talking about they had something up their sleeve. As far as I'm concerned, I use their products, god knows you can't resell them ( ) and they abandoned us because of bad word of mouth years ago....I don't believe anything I hear.

Now, what we need is a good omnisphere thread to talk about sound quality, if it is/isn't a sampler, you know......

[gremlinmoon]

I just got an email from John Lehmkuhl at PlugInGuru. He seems to think that Spectrasonics is going to be making some big announcements at the Winter NAMM show this month. I know that he is pretty plugged in with Eric (PUN!), so maybe this is the case. It makes sense to me. If not at Winter NAMM then we may have to wait another year...... Any thoughts?

The whole "2014 is the year" came from an interview PluginGuru did with Eric.

Eric released an album, Diego has recently released instructional videos, there was a Crystal update...my sense is that whatever it is has been finished for months but they wanted to avoid releasing too close to the holidays.

I think we should bet if Jordan Rudess will do the demo. Who do you think should do the big demo? I hear Trent Reznor was trying to get the gig.

[noiseboyuk]

Does Stylus have an expiry date?

It's not used up for me yet. I still get some mileage out of the existing Stylus content/libraries and very much like the overall sonic aesthetic. The only thing I will say is that I have to be careful how I use it and steer clear of using the more distinctive loops in an obvious way, just because they've been used to death in film and TV soundtracks for the last decade (I still hear immediately recognizable RMX loops in everything from CW superhero shows to The Property Brothers). Would be great to see a handful of brand new Spectrasonics/ILIO libraries for RMX.

Air Crash Investigation (Air Emergency in the US and Mayday in Canada) sometimes feels its scored entirely from Stylus...

Despite a lot of stuff that's been used to death, I still reach for it all the time. I know my way round it and am quicker with it than anything else. Its time engine / groove lock etc is still stupendous. Its needed a tag browser for years. I'm expecting a synthesis engine in the next version / product, and I boldly predict it will start to blur the lines between loops and midi grooves, being able to replace elements of one with the other seamlessly by auto-detecting instruments within audio loops. We'll all flip out. And I'm expecting a huge new core library (a safer prediction bet, admittedly).

I love Omni's gui just as it is, far preferable to any other soft synth I've used - throwing out the entire emulation of hardware paradigm to focus on a more computer-based experience was the smartest move they ever made. I think we'll see new browser enhancements (though its still in a league of its own as it is), and the equivalent to Trilian's front page for every patch. And some new synthesis capabilities. I don't think we'll see sample import, the howl from KVR will be heard from Mars and I won't care. Sample import is equivalent to the record button on DVD players that everyone said they wanted, but it turned out only a tiny percentage of people ever used when it finally came.

Trilian will get some kind of expansion with a Rickenbacker etc, a ton of new patches and a little more of the Omni engine.

And I think there will be a totally new product, but no idea what.

Aaaaannnnd.... yes the tea leaves tell me that we will see some flicker of at least some of this around NAMM.

There. Plenty here to embarrass me when I'm proved wrong on absolutely every point.