Mike Oldfield using FL Studio.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 26 May, 2001
I really liked Prodigy before i heard that last single.
I gonna jump to conclusions.
I gonna jump to conclusions.
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- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
added to my shit list 
mr loopyfruits
mr loopyfruits
Mirabebe wrote:You sure do.topaz wrote:shit sticks.
Oh wait, you didn't mean it like that? Sorry.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 26 May, 2001
Oh no! Wot tu du ... Wot tu du...
I am sure i'll mend somehow ... Someday...
I am sure i'll mend somehow ... Someday...
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- KVRian
- 1023 posts since 8 Apr, 2003 from Östersund
The whole point with Buzz was that it was never commercial. Until the fruity wrapper and xs-1 that is.Anyone with half a (commercial) brain could have jumped on the boat and made a penny. Instead they choose to accuse us of everything bad in the world... and missed the boat.
This is a bad comparison since VST is an "open" format and Buzz is a "closed" format which was never intended to be used outside of buzz. A better comparison would be another host supporting your FL plugins format or Reasons "plugin" format.All this because they were suddenly usable in FL. I mean, can you imagine someone getting pissed because a new sequencer comes up and making his VST's format the HD of anyone running his VST's under that new sequencer?
What you seemed to have missed is that the wrapper breaks the actual SDK license agreement. Machine devs were not angry cause their "secret buzz" was being used in another host. They were angry cause they were certain the agreement would protect the machines from ever being sold commercially.
/Majken
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- KVRist
- 444 posts since 20 Oct, 2001 from belgium
And still 'money' was the only thing they were/are talking about ...Majken wrote:The whole point with Buzz was that it was never commercial.
At least we admit that we like (no love) money.
It not only pays for the goodies we like but it also builds us a solid base ensuring our users that FL will still be there for years to come AND it will contain tons of free goodies we (try to) license from 'starving' developers.
So Oskari broke ... his own license ?Majken wrote:The wrapper breaks the actual SDK license agreement.
See ya,
jmc (FL Studio)
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
After reading through this thread, I think I know why Mike Oldfield looks so tired.
Poor Mike Oldfield. :sigh:
Poor Mike Oldfield. :sigh:
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tony tony chopper tony tony chopper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3103
- KVRAF
- 3561 posts since 20 Jun, 2002
we never sold the buzz adapters, and seriously do you think it makes a damn difference for users? Like 'mmh I'm gonna buy FL.. oh wait it doesn't have a buzz machine adapter, that's it I'm gonna buy something else'..They were angry cause they were certain the agreement would protect the machines from ever being sold commercially.
It caused more shit in customer support because we had to explain why the first half of the machines don't work, why the second half crash, or why the whole lot doesn't work because some obscure C++ DLL is missing.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 331 posts since 30 Mar, 2003
All these people going misty eyed over Buzz is simply strange. Buzz doesn't do anything that isn't done in VST. Buzz is dead.gol wrote:we never sold the buzz adapters, and seriously do you think it makes a damn difference for users? Like 'mmh I'm gonna buy FL.. oh wait it doesn't have a buzz machine adapter, that's it I'm gonna buy something else'..
Mike Oldfield - Let's hope he turns up in the FL forums for a chat
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
Haghi wrote:sorry, need my 20 posts for KVR contest
BTW, I think he's right... or not, who cares... actually, what is this topic about ?
CU!
3 more to go
i like your style
but its only to vote without entering you need the posts for
if your entering you dont need any posts
welcome to kvr,i think youll fit in
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
Carbonboy wrote: Buzz is dead.
Carb.
who killed my dog 
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- KVRAF
- 25028 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
isn't it rather for entering you need the posts for than for voting?vurt wrote:Haghi wrote:sorry, need my 20 posts for KVR contest
BTW, I think he's right... or not, who cares... actually, what is this topic about ?
CU!
3 more to go
i like your style
but its only to vote without entering you need the posts for
if your entering you dont need any posts
welcome to kvr,i think youll fit in
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- addled muppet weed
- 111294 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no it was to stop people starting new ids and voting for themselves
if your entering you have to vote otherwise youd be dq-d so it doesnt matter about posts
if your entering you have to vote otherwise youd be dq-d so it doesnt matter about posts
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- KVRAF
- 25028 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
and there was me thinking it was to stop people from submitting several contributions under differentpseudonyms
(shit - if I knew that before - I should have read the rules more thoroughly
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
That's funny, seeing as the guy who wrote Buzz is same guy who wrote the Buzz Adaptors.Majken wrote:Buzz is a "closed" format which was never intended to be used outside of buzz.
