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aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:19 pm

mysticvibes wrote:I have about 300 patches, anyone want them? I probably won't buy but am using Hive for the OSC and have already created plenty of patches that I'll probably not have need for after this month..

I would be interested, thank you. And thank you to others that are sharing patches.

Cannabis · Post by **Cannabis** » Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:45 pm

Sorry about repeated question, but is there any FM option in Hive? Is it there already or is it planned to be?

Thanks

Xenos · Post by **Xenos** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:26 am

Cannabis wrote:Sorry about repeated question, but is there any FM option in Hive? Is it there already or is it planned to be?

Thanks

Nope

. I've asked for that feature as well. Would sure open up a lot more tone colors and other tricks to play with.

Here's a limited workaround:

1. Set an LFO to whatever you want to modulate.

2. Set Keyfollow to LFO speed, then set that value to 100%

3. Adjust the LFO Rate knob to "tune" the "FM"

The only problem is, it gets slightly out of tune across the keyboard, so it's only useful in a limited range. Still works well when used on Filter Cutoff for filter FM, or for SFX sounds.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:01 am

Cannabis wrote:Sorry about repeated question, but is there any FM option in Hive? Is it there already or is it planned to be?

Thanks

Hive Roadmap:

Step1: Make Hive design/workflow/sound as good as it gets within the feature set it currently has

Step2: Carefully add new features that don't screw with either of above

-> Step2 will most likely entail extra waveforms, among which I could imagine dedicatd ones for the sub oscillator. As such I could imagine "FM slave", "Saw Sync", "Square Sync", "Saw Cross", "Saw Cross+Sync", stuff like that. These would be suckers for CPU if the subs had unison. This is exactly why we designed the sub oscillators to not do unison on their own waveforms.

However, this is currently just a vague idea. It isn't done yet and we have to see when we can try it and if it pans out. For the main oscillators we're envisoning other kinds of waveform additions, which are also not yet set in stone.

Whether results from Step2 will start emerging before or after Hive is released in version 1.0, I can't say. Experience tells me that Step2 may go on for years after release.

uriukti · Post by **uriukti** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:32 am

Dear Urs, and all the musicians. Help me please. I love all the tools U-HE. I already bought Zebra2 and Uhbik. Now really want to buy Hive and Presswerk. And then the other. But I have all the tools on Linux and all U-HE working but HIVE not. What could it be? How Come? I already put logs and describes the problem here.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=210
Unfortunately I can not change the system for a lot of reasons ... and I have my big dream put together a good studio on my Linux, such as there are very few good music programs ...
Please, talk me something ...

uriukti · Post by **uriukti** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:45 am

And I want to offer. Urs, write a program for voice processing. How melodine or autotune. Such programs are rare. And you write a masterpiece. I know.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:15 am

uriukti wrote:Dear Urs, and all the musicians. Help me please. I love all the tools U-HE. I already bought Zebra2 and Uhbik. Now really want to buy Hive and Presswerk. And then the other. But I have all the tools on Linux and all U-HE working but HIVE not. What could it be? How Come? I already put logs and describes the problem here.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &start=210
Unfortunately I can not change the system for a lot of reasons ... and I have my big dream put together a good studio on my Linux, such as there are very few good music programs ...
Please, talk me something ...

Hmmm, I honestly have no idea. At the moment we rely on the community, foremost Abique, to deal with anything related to Linux.

uriukti · Post by **uriukti** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 8:21 am

Ok. I will wait Abique.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:44 am

Hello Urs,

I like your new synth a lot and thinking about buying it, when it's ready. Currently trying this synth in depth for the KVR OSC71 challenge. I have some feature requests, maybe you can think about it and comment, if it make sense to you.

Feature requests:
1. Oscillator sync and oscillator ring mod, to get much more sound possibilities. For example like Korg Radias, EXB-Radias in M3, Microkorg XL etc.

2. Switchable routing of filters. Also serial routing.

3. A Distortion and one-knob-fm unit before or after the filter (switchable). Or the current distortion with a pre-/ after-filter-button.

4. An one knob high pass filter on the master sum of the processing like in Arturia Jupiter-8, that actually filters all below frequency. That's very handy for the mixing. The build-in eq has some how a too flat curve or should be able to do more aggressive high passing.

Or even better a bandpass filter with frequency analyzer inside, two border sliders with a 24db resonant filter and rez control for each border.

5. Some kind of preview of the control values on mouse over.

6. Two more legato modes: One only affecting volume ADSR and one only affecting filter ADSR.

7. Curve settings for the phases of the ADSR: From expo, over lin to logarithmic. Or reflected in one multi value knob.

Thanks.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:33 am

Hanz Meyzer wrote:Hello Urs,

I like your new synth a lot and thinking about buying it, when it's ready. Currently trying this synth in depth for the KVR OSC71 challenge. I have some feature requests, maybe you can think about it and comment, if it make sense to you.

Feature requests:
1. Oscillator sync and oscillator ring mod, to get much more sound possibilities. For example like Korg Radias, EXB-Radias in M3, Microkorg XL etc.

See my post about Hive Roadmap (Step1/2) above.

2. Switchable routing of filters. Also serial routing.

You can already switch the filter routing to serial - just enable Filter1 as input for Filter 2, turn down volume of Filter 1.

3. A Distortion and one-knob-fm unit before or after the filter (switchable)

A per-voice distortion is not likely to happen.

4. An one knob high pass filter on the master sum of the processing like in Arturia Jupiter-8, that actually filters all below frequency. That's very handy for the mixing. The build-in eq has some how a too flat curve or should be able to do more aggressive high passing.

Or even better a bandpass filter with frequency analyzer inside, two border sliders with a 24db resonant filter and rez control for each border.

A switch that makes the EQ a filter is a possibility

5. Some kind of preview of the control values on mouse over.

Not sure if and when this is gonna happen. As things move towards touch interfaces, the concept of "mouse over" seems to be doomed. I always wanted to add it, but it hasn't ever been a priority.

6. Two more legato modes: One only affecting volume ADSR and one only affecting filter ADSR.

That sounds confusing, do you have an example synth where this works?

7. Curve settings for the phases of the ADSR: From expo, over lin to logarithmic. Or reflected in one multi value knob.

One day we'll document exactly how envelopes can be shaped with what's there already. We're just also toying with the idea to make it easier beforehand (env rate as mod target, maybe even a knob)

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:41 am

Urs, thanks for your comments.

Regarding this:

3. A Distortion and one-knob-fm unit before or after the filter (switchable)

Is it possible to add a pre-/after-filter-button to the current distortion effect then?

That sounds confusing, do you have an example synth where this works?

I think the freeware synth OBXD is one example. There you can "keep fenv" or "keep aenv" etc.
Mac version here: http://obxd.wordpress.com You need to activate unison first.

As far as I understand current legato changes the pitch of the oscs but leaves volume- and filter adar untouched on note change... Is this right? So two extra legato modes where one restarts only volume adsr and one only restarts filter adsr.

Greetz

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:24 pm

Greetings,

Just a quick note of thanks to all you patch devs out there. I'm having a blast playing with Hive (on Fedora Linux, btw) and definitely plan on the purchase.

Alas, my synth programming chops are so rusty, and you folks keep pumping out 'way more interesting stuff than I can put together. So, thanks a lot to Urs, Abique, and this community, you're all hard rockers in my book.

Best,

dp

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:02 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:Urs, thanks for your comments.

Regarding this:
3. A Distortion and one-knob-fm unit before or after the filter (switchable)
Is it possible to add a pre-/after-filter-button to the current distortion effect then?

no, because pre-filter would be per voice

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:10 pm

Urs wrote:
7. Curve settings for the phases of the ADSR: From expo, over lin to logarithmic. Or reflected in one multi value knob.
One day we'll document exactly how envelopes can be shaped with what's there already. We're just also toying with the idea to make it easier beforehand (env rate as mod target, maybe even a knob)

I'd love some sort of graphical feedback of precisely what an evenlope's shape is after its modifications -- it can be pretty tough to wrap one's head around what's going on to an envelope, especially when you've got four of them all capable of modulating each other.

drez · Post by **drez** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:10 pm

Urs wrote:
Hanz Meyzer wrote:Hello Urs,

5. Some kind of preview of the control values on mouse over.
Not sure if and when this is gonna happen. As things move towards touch interfaces, the concept of "mouse over" seems to be doomed. I always wanted to add it, but it hasn't ever been a priority.

Urs, I thought the same thing. Seeing Touchable's implementation, I have since changed my tune. I think this is an extremely elegant solution:

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