KVR Audio

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:42 am

One of my best friends is a developer there. He has a family and frankly this is a shit start to 2015.

Awaiting to hear back from him. (but may not be able to say anything depending on what's happened)

abstractcats · Post by **abstractcats** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:43 am

hope every one.at CA,.is.well.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:44 am

TwoToneshuzz wrote:Should be illegal just to shut down like this.. As a developer of software plug ins your selling something with the promise of maintaining functionality, especielly from a sound designers/developer point of view, it's simply reprehensible..

Users need to have a keep safe org. that can insure survival of their tools when the developers cave.. So support and development can continue...Afterall it seems like there is several lifetimes worth of work that goes into building up the resources that a popular instrument like Alchemy has amassed around it's sound making platform..

My PC is unaware of CA's demise.
As such my Alchemy still works.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:45 am

fandango wrote:Awaiting to hear back from him. (but may not be able to say anything depending on what's happened)

PM then!

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:48 am

I don't impose my take on perfection, upon people I purchase from.
We all will shut down. Some in more severe situations than others.
Software keeps working. We won't.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:49 am

Maybe their Website was hacked.

beely · Post by **beely** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:52 am

TwoToneshuzz wrote:As a developer of software plug ins your selling something with the promise of maintaining functionality, especielly from a sound designers/developer point of view, it's simply reprehensible..

No, you *actually* are selling the product as it exists then, with no promise of future compatibility or support. Users often infer such a promise, but legally there is not one, as outlined in the license terms with any software product.

Of course, a good company does support it's products and maintain them moving forward as it's good business to do so. But there is no legal obligation to users to update a product for any length of time. And sometimes, sh*t happens.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:54 am

Aloysius wrote:Maybe their Website was hacked.

And Ugo's account here?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=429208

erm, no.

Heartwarming as usual to see that the reaction is full of entitlement ('what about my stuff', 'stopping selling their stuff should be illegal', 'open source it', 'so was alchemy2 a lie?') rather than concern ('are folk okay?').

Here's hoping Ben etc are okay.

stimresp · Post by **stimresp** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:55 am

If true then I am saddened. Camel was always a company synonymous with quality and excellent customer service.
Whatever the reason, I'm sure it was a decision not taken lightly. As a small business owner myself I can understand the pressures.

A couple of days ago I tried to trade my Alchemy license for another plugin. I don't mind keeping it now (feeling a tad guilty in fact).

Ben and Co - I wish you every success for the future, and thank you for your amazing work.

patchhunter · Post by **patchhunter** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:57 am

This sucks.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:05 am

I hope that Ben is alright.

I mean... why would CA bother to edit half of the site out (there's no product info anymore!) and not mention in an official statement that something might have happened to Ben?

Luftrum · Post by **Luftrum** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:10 am

OMFG!! I just noticed. I'm in shock, I cannot even enter the backend where dev's and SD's talk, WTF! I have no clue whatsoever... this is sad.

coincidental · Post by **coincidental** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:10 am

I hope that Alchemy 2 was looking just so damn good that someone paid a shedload for it. If that's true, then I trust Ben & Co to do something decent with the cash rather than just lounge around in a gold-plated bathtub sipping champagne. Also, it means there's a chance the Alchemy 2 IP may see the light of day eventually, though I can't believe anyone with such deep pockets would make as good a job of releasing it as the Camels would have done.

The alternative is some sort of personal disaster, and I hope that's not the case. Either way, I hope all the Camel employees are being looked after.

Under the circumstances I won't be releasing the Alchemy library I was working on! Was a month or two off finishing anyway, and I may be able to reuse the samples for something else, so not the end of the world. Alchemy was one of the two or three sound design formats I was going to confine myself to in the future, so that will change. It's a shame, because I still think that Alchemy can't be beaten for flexibility and versatility. As long as technology doesn't stop me running it, I'll still be using Alchemy 1 for many years to come...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:14 am

One thing I can say is... piracy is not the cause of this decision. CA was well off...

http://companycheck.co.uk/company/04821 ... ny-summary

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Thu Jan 08, 2015 10:17 am

Awful news. Hope everyone at Camel HQ is okay.

Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]