Sure... After months working on a new version, and when things (according to people who knows that hads-on) were coming in such a good way, it makes sense to shut-down and go to South-AmericaTonyVegas wrote:Well if nobody at KVR even noticed they were practically giving their flagship product away, then I guess it's no mystery why they went out of business. Or, they could be loading the bags of money onto a plane bound for the Bahamas right at this very moment.
Camel Audio ceasing sales? [Update: CA acquired by Apple]
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- KVRAF
- 11162 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
In my opinion it smells of the sort of takeover i would expect from a company like Apple. If the apparently reliable quote from the Props forum is be trusted then Ben had been in talks with Apple previously. Perhaps an agreement was made.
Thinking about it, Logic's bundled instruments are a bit long in the tooth. Alchemy 2 would make a spectacular addition and might be enough to persuade some more Windows users to switch over. In fact, Alchemy as it is could probably be split up into a few separate instruments, all of a high standard. CamelPhat's four distortion knobs would be an improvement over Logic's existing modules. I'm pretty sure the filter's were licensed from Antti so i don't know whether they'd carry over.
On the other hand, perhaps Apple are thinking to start adding extra plugins available as paid upgrades, again Alchemy 2 would make for a damn good flagship here. Not to mention the groundwork built on the iOS version making for more interaction potential.
Its doubtful we'll ever see a Windows version, if Apple are the buyers, not unless one of the sound designers were to leak the beta somehow.
Personally, i'm hoping Spectrasonics announce Alchesphere at the upcoming NAMM, but i wouldn't put money on it.
Thinking about it, Logic's bundled instruments are a bit long in the tooth. Alchemy 2 would make a spectacular addition and might be enough to persuade some more Windows users to switch over. In fact, Alchemy as it is could probably be split up into a few separate instruments, all of a high standard. CamelPhat's four distortion knobs would be an improvement over Logic's existing modules. I'm pretty sure the filter's were licensed from Antti so i don't know whether they'd carry over.
On the other hand, perhaps Apple are thinking to start adding extra plugins available as paid upgrades, again Alchemy 2 would make for a damn good flagship here. Not to mention the groundwork built on the iOS version making for more interaction potential.
Its doubtful we'll ever see a Windows version, if Apple are the buyers, not unless one of the sound designers were to leak the beta somehow.
Personally, i'm hoping Spectrasonics announce Alchesphere at the upcoming NAMM, but i wouldn't put money on it.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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basslinemaster basslinemaster https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=288258
- Banned
- 834 posts since 20 Sep, 2012
I can recommend Codex, if you can buy it cheap used, very nice sounds.Kalamata Kid wrote:I did not purchase Serum when on sale
Because I was wanted to wait and get
Alchemy 2...
So what is a good alternative
purchase other than Alchemy 1
and Serum.
- KVRAF
- 1959 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void
Business as usual until the contracts are signed. Would be unprofessional to cease development before any buyout is definite.V0RT3X wrote:if there was a buyout, why did they hire people to design sounds for alchemy 2 then?
I'm still inclined to read between the lines when Luftrum says he knows nothing (or does he) but isn't worried anymore.
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 25 Apr, 2014
Hey... I'm just sayin'...fmr wrote:Sure... After months working on a new version, and when things (according to people who knows that hads-on) were coming in such a good way, it makes sense to shut-down and go to South-AmericaTonyVegas wrote:Well if nobody at KVR even noticed they were practically giving their flagship product away, then I guess it's no mystery why they went out of business. Or, they could be loading the bags of money onto a plane bound for the Bahamas right at this very moment.




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HideawayStudio HideawayStudio https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=222227
- KVRist
- 246 posts since 23 Dec, 2009 from UK
There seem to be some vile words already being spoken about a situation no one actually knows anything about!
Which brings me back to my original point...
>>And after reading 52 pages of all kind of speculation, I find it a bit harsh not to give any official reason behind such a business move.
Its becoming painfully obvious that they aren't able or permitted to do so... ie. a gagging order has been put in place.
This can be in place for several reasons ranging from an amicable takeover, a C&D order through to be sued for patent infringement.
Which brings me back to my original point...
>>And after reading 52 pages of all kind of speculation, I find it a bit harsh not to give any official reason behind such a business move.
Its becoming painfully obvious that they aren't able or permitted to do so... ie. a gagging order has been put in place.
This can be in place for several reasons ranging from an amicable takeover, a C&D order through to be sued for patent infringement.
Home of Novachord #346...
- KVRAF
- 2323 posts since 2 Feb, 2009 from Germany
Maybe it`s something other as Apple or others bought CA, maybe they merging with another company? Or bought another company by themselfs and merging now? 
- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Well...when you put it that way....and no one seemed to take my KVR-bought-Camel for the page views theory.fmr wrote:Sure... After months working on a new version, and when things (according to people who knows that hads-on) were coming in such a good way, it makes sense to shut-down and go to South-AmericaTonyVegas wrote:Well if nobody at KVR even noticed they were practically giving their flagship product away, then I guess it's no mystery why they went out of business. Or, they could be loading the bags of money onto a plane bound for the Bahamas right at this very moment.
So....it's time to pull out Occam's rusty razor.
Camel Audio was abducted by aliens!
Crazy? Sure. But...consider these questions carefully:
Why would an advanced race from another galaxy visit earth and abduct a leading VST synth vendor based in Scotland, then delete KVR posts?
Why would the richest company in the world build a self-aggrandizing space dock on earth in the disguise of corporate HQ?
Why would advanced aliens from another galaxy be monitoring KVR supersaw threads?
Why would ZenPuppy go silent on the same day that NASA celebrated the anniversary of their first Mars mission?
Why does someone with the initials D.G. work for NASA and post on yahoo?
Why would this happen now, just before NAMM rather than during?
If we ask enough wrong questions, will we arrive at the right questions?
Why is it on KVR there's seems to be so many, but never quite enough wrong questions?

If Dirk Gently posted on KVR, would we have the answers?
perception: the stuff reality is made of.
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
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- KVRAF
- 9609 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
If they would merge or being taken over why should they delete topics if thats all true? It is like hiding something etc cause censorship iant trustworthy is it?
DAW FL Studio Audio Interface Focusrite Scarlett 1st Gen 2i2 CPU Intel i7-7700K 4.20 GHz, RAM 32 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @2400MHz Corsair Vengeance. MB Asus Prime Z270-K, GPU Gainward 1070 GTX GS 8GB NT Be Quiet DP 550W OS Win10 64Bit
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- KVRian
- 1401 posts since 9 Feb, 2012
Sure enough:TheoM wrote:Hang on i am freaking out about this.. are you seriously sure about Reason? I shed tears over him and was really cut up. Sorry to go OT but i have to know if this is true.antithesist wrote:Flabbergasted.
This is up there with Abbey Road dropping the Cool Stuff Labs developed plug-ins, Team DNR's Reason faking his own death and the BIAS peak debacle.
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http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7&t=410457
I didn't cry, but it really, really got to me... as did his resurrection as Booby DeKONstruktion (Bobby Destruktion, actually).
I was trying to think of something on-topic to put here other than "Camel Audio sucks" again, but couldn't come up with anything.
WEASEL: World Electro-Acoustic Sound Excitation Laboratories
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- KVRAF
- 9883 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
That's the real strange part, not sure why they would do that. If they had their way, maybe they would delete our posts here too.Caine123 wrote:If they would merge or being taken over why should they delete topics if thats all true? It is like hiding something etc cause censorship iant trustworthy is it?
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 29 Dec, 2012 from Poland
This thread is wonderful. A vast resource for psychological, sociological and psychiatric research.
Now I know how easy is to induce wild states of mind in hundreds of people and how quick such process becomes self-sustaining.
A lot of noise and overdrive on all tracks and wild feedback without any limiting
Now I know how easy is to induce wild states of mind in hundreds of people and how quick such process becomes self-sustaining.
A lot of noise and overdrive on all tracks and wild feedback without any limiting
