2CAudio Kaleidoscope | It's A Trip | Latest Update 1.1

[Andrew Souter]

Not sure I'm ready for automated artistry. But, willing to find out.

This is an interesting philosophical debate actually. Is a photographer an artist for example? He/she does not technically create anything new. Or what about a painter who paints a portrait? The object of the portrait is pre-existing. The painter emulates and stylizes it. Is it inauthentic in some way because of this?

I think a lot of "art" is involved with ascribing meaning to effectively random data as explained in my previous pontification.

At least in KS we give you dice (literally and figuratively) to play with to explore a potential space that is probably provably larger than the known universe already. Someone better at math can prove or disproove me if they like.

Better than selecting a sylenth patch and programming a 3 +3 +2 mono-tone bass groove at 128bpm with a step sequencer and claiming an artistic epiphany IMHO... (I say that having done such things myself in my less informed years, so I am not pointing fingers... )

[arachnaut]

My advice to new users: This baffled me for a while but after playing around a bit I got the hang of it.

Beta testers didn't get the manual for a while, but that might be good because there so much to absorb - it may be best just to play for some time.

I recommend starting with the geometric images and explore the rhythmic side first, then go on to the ambient images.

Very quickly you will get hooked and find the day is gone...

[KBSoundSmith]

Bouncing down audio on my ancient computer was ... fun (this plugin won't be practical to use until I get a new computer, that simple). But, I did manage to fight with my computer long enough today to put together a quick track from the KS Demo.

I bounced down audio from the demo, using white noise as the source sound being fed into KS (using various presets). After bouncing down samples, I then constructed this track a la musique concrete.

I made a preset in B2 for the track's reverb. Minimal effects were used--I used a granular delay in isolated spots (most such effects are actually KS and not the granular delay), otherwise, effects are mainly just the reverb.

Enjoy (hopefully someone finds this useful, bouncing audio sucks )

https://soundcloud.com/kbsoundsmith/kal ... ing-dreams

[Sampleconstruct]

Here I am using the FIR-mode and a simple wooden texture as input source, creating granular-like effects:

[Sampleconstruct]

Here I'm improvising with one of my Serum patches (mainly played with the left hand as I needed the right hand for KS), staying in the key of G as this was the root note chosen in KS:



Here is the entire playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 2PxoUbW05k

[lnikj]

Here I'm improvising with one of my Serum patches (mainly played with the left hand as I needed the right hand for KS), staying in the key of G as this was the root note chosen in KS:

That's lovely

[rustman]

I was thinking how it would be absolutely silly not to get the Arch. 1 KS set with this thing. That many more graphic/tuning/waveform options would keep the happy accidents coming for years. I have my head around the interface and basics now. Pretty much onboard. I can see bits of audio files from the output getting loaded into other synths for further possibilities. I spent an hour just running drum loops through and checking out the inspiring things that came out. Moving the mod offset can give some dramatic changes. I see a big download on tomorrow's agenda...

Simon- that last one was my fave. Very nice.

[lnikj]

But you have a great lowpass in KS.

It's probably just my ineptitude / insufficient attention to the manual / insufficient experimentation!

I think I am hypersensitive to resonances sometimes anyway.

For example - if you take:

Static Melodic | Dorian Ambassador | D1 | 100% white/no input

I find an unpleasant resonance at about 870Hz. I can surgically attenuate that without affecting the character of the sound too much with an EQ, but I can't find a way of removing it within the plugin without majorly affecting the sound.

As I said, it is probably just me though!

[mandolarian]

Not sure I'm ready for automated artistry. But, willing to find out.

This is an interesting philosophical debate actually. Is a photographer an artist for example? He/she does not technically create anything new. Or what about a painter who paints a portrait? The object of the portrait is pre-existing. The painter emulates and stylizes it. Is it inauthentic in some way because of this?

I think a lot of "art" is involved with ascribing meaning to effectively random data as explained in my previous pontification.

At least in KS we give you dice (literally and figuratively) to play with to explore a potential space that is probably provably larger than the known universe already. Someone better at math can prove or disproove me if they like.

Better than selecting a sylenth patch and programming a 3 +3 +2 mono-tone bass groove at 128bpm with a step sequencer and claiming an artistic epiphany IMHO... (I say that having done such things myself in my less informed years, so I am not pointing fingers... )

Wait! What? KS won't automate the 'meaning' phase? This is on the future feature list, right?

So in the current version, we actually have to twiddle a few things and then actually listen - then put stuff together as in composing? Pushing the KVR effort threshold.

So the potential space number is larger than 10^110? Impressive. Or was that just the number of shipping presets?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Here I'm improvising with one of my Serum patches (mainly played with the left hand as I needed the right hand for KS), staying in the key of G as this was the root note chosen in KS:



Here is the entire playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 2PxoUbW05k

would have been beautiful but for all the crackling and ripping

[Sampleconstruct]

But you have a great lowpass in KS.

It's probably just my ineptitude / insufficient attention to the manual / insufficient experimentation!

I think I am hypersensitive to resonances sometimes anyway.

For example - if you take:

Static Melodic | Dorian Ambassador | D1 | 100% white/no input

I find an unpleasant resonance at about 870Hz. I can surgically attenuate that without affecting the character of the sound too much with an EQ, but I can't find a way of removing it within the plugin without majorly affecting the sound.

As I said, it is probably just me though!

Sure, in that case only an EQ will help, but that de-harshing couldn't be solved with a Multiband-compressor either, as suggested here before.

[Sampleconstruct]

Simon- that last one was my fave. Very nice.

Thank you, that might be one strengths of KS, to add some subtle tonal ambience to a given piece, not spectacularly in the foreground, but more sublime in the background, at least that's how I often use it, to create tonal beds directly from any input source rather than adding yet another "pad sound".

[Sampleconstruct]

Here I'm improvising with one of my Serum patches (mainly played with the left hand as I needed the right hand for KS), staying in the key of G as this was the root note chosen in KS:



Here is the entire playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 2PxoUbW05k

would have been beautiful but for all the crackling and ripping

Sure, but as this is an experimental video playing and experimenting in real time with KS, why not allow for the "real" things to happen in a video when trying to adjust KS to the situation it is being used in.

[lnikj]

But you have a great lowpass in KS.

It's probably just my ineptitude / insufficient attention to the manual / insufficient experimentation!

I think I am hypersensitive to resonances sometimes anyway.

For example - if you take:

Static Melodic | Dorian Ambassador | D1 | 100% white/no input

I find an unpleasant resonance at about 870Hz. I can surgically attenuate that without affecting the character of the sound too much with an EQ, but I can't find a way of removing it within the plugin without majorly affecting the sound.

As I said, it is probably just me though!

Sure, in that case only an EQ will help, but that de-harshing couldn't be solved with a Multiband-compressor either, as suggested here before.

No, you're right.

Andrew - if you are taking feature requests - maybe a notch filter?

[Greg Houston]

Sure, in that case only an EQ will help, but that de-harshing couldn't be solved with a Multiband-compressor either, as suggested here before.

What a compressor can do is tame the sudden resonant gain peaks. I didn't suggest it for "de-harshing".