KVR Audio

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:10 am

cocoazenith wrote: I believe it's €399 with VAT included.

FYI: thomann.de sells Omnisphere 1 right now for €370 (VAT included).

Thank you!

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:51 am

cocoazenith wrote:
basslinemaster wrote:
Well, I have to say that despite being very impressed, two things about the video really irritated me - the 'dubstep' 'wobble' 'EDM' sounds (which I hate, wherevere I hear them)
I wonder how many presets, out of the 3000 new ones, are EDM/wobble/dubstep. That's a major reason why I wouldn't pay for the Upgrade…

Also this software's sound concept seems to have changed a lot during these 10+ years, if we compare Omnisphere 2 to what Atmosphere was set out to be.

K-Bee wrote:I won't have time for it anymore with all these features and 10.000+ presets
10.000+? Omnisphere 1 had 5000+, the new one has 3000 new so that makes about 8000+.

Priceless!

KVR howls - Omnisphere is useless for dubstep. Some dubstep patches appear. KVR howls - it does dubstep! I don't want it, then!

EDM, obviously, is far more than dubstep, and Omni is far more than EDM. The whole point is that it covers a vast ground, which is why so many of us love it. If you're only interested in one particular subgenre, then Omni 2 will be a waste, cos you're missing the other 98% of the synth. If it's big saws you're after, then listen to the new drift mode in Unison @3m50s https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/ ... /index.php /. That's only a tiny part of Omni 2 as well, so no-one come back with "oh BORING another supersaw synth".

As for the sound concept evolving from Atmosphere... er, yeah. It's evolved. Twice. The first time into a different product entirely.

The 10,000 figure is soundsources plus patches. I'd guess it'll be around 7,000 patches. Maybe that's help K-bee who won't buy it cos they'd never go through 10,000 patches - it's only a mere 7,000 now.

Sheesh.

Incidentally, on the patches, people are still making the mistake of thinking you'll never get through them all to evaluate them, and find that intimidating or daunting. That's not how Omni works, and even less so in v2. You never start from patch 1, or even need to just limit to a crude category like "leads" / "arps" like other synths. You can now further search by waveform, mood, or genre to get it down to a manageable list - be as technical or hippy as you like with your criteria (pretty sure you can search by model too, for specific synths that have been sampled - you can in Trilian - would be interesting to know if that includes the oscillator wavetables which have sampled scores of synth's waveforms). Or boolean search to hone in on a specific set of keywords while eliminating others. Then if you like something, you can soundmatch now to find similar alternates, or lock certain parameters and change others from another patch. Omni 1's browser was miles ahead of the competition, this is light years ahead.

Incidentally part 2, if folks want to get Omni 2 from scratch, I'd say it makes perfect sense to buy Omni 1 right now. Get it all installed and start having fun. Then you can just download the update for free when Omni 2 comes out.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:51 am

Just in time for my birthday. I am glad that I have a few months to think about it. People complaining about the cost clearly never had to deal with guitar GAS, lol.

cocoazenith · Post by **cocoazenith** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:04 pm

noiseboyuk wrote:EDM, obviously, is far more than dubstep, and Omni is far more than EDM. The whole point is that it covers a vast ground, which is why so many of us love it. If you're only interested in one particular subgenre, then Omni 2 will be a waste, cos you're missing the other 98% of the synth. If it's big saws you're after, then listen to the new drift mode in Unison @3m50s https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/ ... /index.php /. That's only a tiny part of Omni 2 as well, so no-one come back with "oh BORING another supersaw synth".

As for the sound concept evolving from Atmosphere... er, yeah. It's evolved. Twice. The first time into a different product entirely.

Well, yes, I have to admit, I bought Omnisphere for its atmospheric sound reputation (voices, pads, bells etc. a.k.a. the Eric Persing/Roland sound). It's true it has evolved into an all-around product but that's not really relevant to me.

Please don't mind my trying to justify whether it's worth my $249 having in mind my rather simple needs.

jowen · Post by **jowen** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:23 pm

to justify whether it's worth my $

If you look at Erics face in the video, it seems they were running out of steaks and frenchfries, so he needs every $!
He will get some from me.

valerian_777 · Post by **valerian_777** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:33 pm

recursive one wrote:
cocoazenith wrote: I believe it's €399 with VAT included.

FYI: thomann.de sells Omnisphere 1 right now for €370 (VAT included).
Thank you!

From Germany it is 359€ with VAT & shipping.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:04 pm

People will spend a lot of time browsing and building patches

I wonder about copyright issues when people feed other people's songs into that granular engine which modifies them...

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:08 pm

Yeah, or rendered audio of other companies' samples.

The more I think about this upgrade, though, the more I am likely to give it a pass, at least for the foreseeable future. Space on my 2nd HDD is getting low (139 gigs left from 500). While replacing the STEAM content from Omni 1 will mitigate that, adding one's own soundsources will, fairly quickly, use up lots of disk space. I like to keep things as simple as possible in my rig. I have a Mac Mini server with 2 HDDs, and I don't really want to go the external HDD route at the moment.

Spip · Post by **Spip** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:09 pm

Trancit wrote:
Spip wrote:
mhog wrote:
Spip wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Audio import!! The video only showed importing a long piece of audio for using with the granular engine. Can you also import multi-samples? wavetables?
It seems so looking at the pictures at the bottom of the website page.
wavetables maybe. Multi-samples I don't think.
Take a look at image 28/30. You can assign any velocity or round robin you want to any sample.
To me, it seems that this is only possible to the integrated soundsources and I highly doubt, there are possibilities for multi sample import at the moment (at least there are no images showing any sample mapping (which would be essential for multisample import) anywhere...)...

If so, then sample import is nearly useless other than for the more extrem manglers like the granular engine... means, again to be stuck with the internal soundsources ....

If it wouldn´t be from Spectrasonics, you guys would shoot any other developer down in flames for such a half baken feature implementation in nowadays...
Always funny to see this behaviour here

Take a look at the picture 28. You can see a menu for setting round robin number for the selected sample.

Is it useful to set the round robin number if you only have one sample ?

It's always funny to meet the smart guy of the day...

jantex · Post by **jantex** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:34 pm

Omnisphere 1 was one of the only software products which deserved the term "amazing".

Omnisphere 2 is simply out of this world featurewise, it is the most complete workstation/synth eve built. Bye bye my other syhtns.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:38 pm

I don't mind the included EDM soundbank at all. You guys did see how much time they spent focusing on sampling crazy sound sources right? That is still the major focus of Omnisphere best I can tell.

There are plenty of Omnipshere patches in 1.0 that don't fit with my music but there are just as many that do. Thats why I love Omni. Huge steaks for everyone

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:43 pm

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:47 pm

Voice303 wrote:I don't mind the included EDM soundbank at all. You guys did see how much time they spent focusing on sampling crazy sound sources right? That is still the major focus of Omnisphere best I can tell.

There are plenty of Omnipshere patches in 1.0 that don't fit with my music but there are just as many that do. Thats why I love Omni. Huge steaks for everyone

When someone uses such specific samples in a song everyone knows they used Omnisphere

Judging from that video many of those have rather limited musical value, except maybe in World Music.

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:54 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Voice303 wrote:I don't mind the included EDM soundbank at all. You guys did see how much time they spent focusing on sampling crazy sound sources right? That is still the major focus of Omnisphere best I can tell.

There are plenty of Omnipshere patches in 1.0 that don't fit with my music but there are just as many that do. Thats why I love Omni. Huge steaks for everyone
When someone uses such specific samples in a song everyone knows they used Omnisphere Judging from that video many of those have rather limited musical value, except maybe in World Music.

Completely unmodified presets sure, sound sources not always besides maybe some of the melodic textures.

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:58 pm

If Omnisphere 2 won't do dark ambient experimental crow death polka, I'm not gonna buy it!

It's going to take 4 months to save up for it!

Omnisphere 2 is here! (yes, it's really here!)