How to record drums in traction 4
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 25 Dec, 2014
Can anyone give me any tips on how to record my drums on separate tracks so I can mix the kick, snare & overheads independently? I'm not getting the clarity with all the mics being routed into one track. I'm using my mixing board for each individual input, but it all routes out to only 1 track l & r stereo, or 2 tracks mono. Any input?
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- KVRian
- 755 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
Read the manual? Specifically chapters two and five.
http://www.tracktion.com/wp/wp-content/ ... Rev-A4.pdf
What mixing board? What input devices? Don't they show up?
http://www.tracktion.com/wp/wp-content/ ... Rev-A4.pdf
What mixing board? What input devices? Don't they show up?
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 30 Aug, 2014
I'm gonna take a wild guess that you are using a summing mixer like a Behringer. Giving away T4 with these mixers has caused a lot of confusion and I personally dealt with such an issue with a guy I ended up doing a demo EP for. He couldn't figure out how to do it either so he ended up having to pay me to bring my own gear and track as such. They need to be more clear that these analog to digital summing mixers CANNOT, under any circumstances behave like a control surface and allow you to track individual sources in a DAW. You have to mix inside the mixer then deal with the stereo sum output. My suggestion would be to get an interface that allows multi-tracking. I won't go as far as to blame the Tracktion team but the Mackie/Behringer method of marketing these mixers as being "compatible" with T4 is deceptive. Sure, you can record the summed output but that is rarely what people want to do when they buy a mixer to use outboard of a DAW. You can use the mixer as it's designed and produce a decent mix with it, then use the stereo mix to save CPU on larger sessions.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 2 posts since 25 Dec, 2014
Yes, I got the x2222. I still love it, but yes I was a bit dissapointed that I couldn't multi track with it. I have been getting pretty descent drum recordings tho lately. I use a kick mic, a snare mic & an overhead mic & so far the recording have been turning out pretty good.
I'm still going to invest in a 6 - 8 input interface tho. Gotta have the individual break down mix ya know! Thanks, I appreciate the confirmation to my question.
I'm still going to invest in a 6 - 8 input interface tho. Gotta have the individual break down mix ya know! Thanks, I appreciate the confirmation to my question.
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 18 Jul, 2013 from Maryland, USA
Hi drummist13
For now you can pan the bass drum all the way left and the snare and overhead all the way right. That will give you more control of the bass drum and it will be on its own track when you record it. Then you could play along with that track and record two more tracks and maybe pan the toms left and the hi hat and something else all the way right and end up with four recorded tracks and with a little mixing in your DAW get a little closer to the sound you want. For now , that is. You do need a different mixer tho. After recording with my Mackie1640 for a year I discovered that I didn't even need a mixer for recording.
I got a Roland OctaCapture and did away with the 1640 entirely. OctaCapture has a feature called AutoSens that automatically sets up your recording volume in 15 seconds and after that you can just start recording and do it all day without having to reset anything. Once you get it into Tracktion you can mix to your heart's content and add eq, compression etc. and you only need two channels of playback on the OctaCapture.
There's a zillion other possibilities out there and I just suggested this one because it has eight mic/line inputs and USB output. I get good results with it on drums and it saves me a lot of work because once it is set up you don't have to go back and tweak it every time you start recording something else.
Good luck and keep using the forum for help until you come up with something that works for you and fits your budget.
Regards,
theoldguy
For now you can pan the bass drum all the way left and the snare and overhead all the way right. That will give you more control of the bass drum and it will be on its own track when you record it. Then you could play along with that track and record two more tracks and maybe pan the toms left and the hi hat and something else all the way right and end up with four recorded tracks and with a little mixing in your DAW get a little closer to the sound you want. For now , that is. You do need a different mixer tho. After recording with my Mackie1640 for a year I discovered that I didn't even need a mixer for recording.
I got a Roland OctaCapture and did away with the 1640 entirely. OctaCapture has a feature called AutoSens that automatically sets up your recording volume in 15 seconds and after that you can just start recording and do it all day without having to reset anything. Once you get it into Tracktion you can mix to your heart's content and add eq, compression etc. and you only need two channels of playback on the OctaCapture.
There's a zillion other possibilities out there and I just suggested this one because it has eight mic/line inputs and USB output. I get good results with it on drums and it saves me a lot of work because once it is set up you don't have to go back and tweak it every time you start recording something else.
Good luck and keep using the forum for help until you come up with something that works for you and fits your budget.
Regards,
theoldguy
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