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Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:07 pm

hollo wrote:I really hope it will be even more useful stuff in the hexagon.

Finally i am happy to share with you my experiment with Hive:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=430905

Noodling with some of the sounds. Totally naked Hive and playing.
https://soundcloud.com/hollosound/hollohivefree

Bravo old chap bravo

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:33 pm

Oh man, what a fool I am (was). I thought Hive was something like a stripped-down Zebra. I just spent a couple of hours making some sounds, and... wowee zowee. This thing is like a crystal-clear mountain pond, belying its true depths, with treasures a-plenty to be found once you plunge into it and explore.

Well, sign me up. *sigh* Great work, guys (as usual).

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:59 pm

Sure, if you assign one of them to pitch you'll quickly hear what they do.

Alternate is a bi-polar source, it modulates in a positive or negative direction, per note press. According to how much you dial in in the mod-matrix.

Constant just provides a constant shift to whatever you assign it to. If you assign it to pitch you'll simply hear the pitch set to a new value. It's static. It can be useful to push parameters further than the front panel allows. Among other things.

Random assigns a random, but constant value to whatever you assign it to. This again acts on a per-note basis.

Hope that helps (and is correct!)

Ahh, thank you so much! sure, I could hear the results, but I wasn't going to learn that much just by mucking around

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(are you going to make a soundset?)

Oh man, what a fool I am (was). I thought Hive was something like a stripped-down Zebra. I just spent a couple of hours making some sounds, and... wowee zowee. This thing is like a crystal-clear mountain pond, belying its true depths, with treasures a-plenty to be found once you plunge into it and explore.

Well, sign me up. *sigh* Great work, guys (as usual).

It really is fun ^^. Right now, I'm playing with both Spire and Hive to see which one I like more. They are both steller modern synths that aren't far off. While Hive has a much more lush organic/analog sound, I find it's a lot easier to get...let's say, contemporary sounds out of Spire. It's got all sorts of goodies (vowels in the phaser and more shaper tools ^^), is much smaller since everything is nested. It's got this unique character that's neither analog nor digital, but sits right in the middle. So far, it feels like I'm splitting hairs since they are both genuinely great choices.

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:12 pm

Spire and Hive complement each other wonderfully. While Hive is less in-depth than Spire it does have such an immediate workflow (and of course lower CPU) that it's often preferable unless a more complex sound is desired.

I was on the fence until i tried it, the feature set may be modest but it's just such a joy to use.

Sinapsya · Post by **Sinapsya** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:59 pm

I have some new preset I make for Hive....where I can send to you?

Cheers
Sinapsya

aaron aardvark · Post by **aaron aardvark** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:49 am

Sinapsya wrote:I have some new preset I make for Hive....where I can send to you?

Cheers
Sinapsya

If you zip it first, you can post it in this forum. Tell us if you need more help.

martingifford · Post by **martingifford** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:50 am

tedlogan wrote: Your presets are stored in whichever folder Hive's browser is currently in/you were browsing in. If you want to avoid this, before clicking "save", click on "presets" first to open the browser, navigate to the folder you'd like to save it in, and click "save". Just be careful not to click on another preset before saving as you'd lose all your work! You can make your own user folder, which is recommended, by right-clicking in the folder tree and choosing "create new folder". This will create it within whichever folder you right-clicked on. You can also drag and drop your presets from one folder to another.

Thanks Ted. I made a silly mistake - looking for my initials in the preset titles but they are in the author section.

I backed up my preset folder then installed the new version of Hive and it kept all the old presets and just added new factory preset folders - logical but I wasn't sure it would do that.

I was getting depressed about music and Hive after the old presets weren't very usable for my stuff. I was also hearing a bit of digitality in Hive and everywhere else, which started happening after playing with Serum when it came out.

But this new release of Hive with all the new patches sounds very warm and analogue and rich. Some great new presets in there, and very usable. Every new preset sounds great!

Still haven't figured out about the sub-oscillators. With Sylenth you can you instantly change the octave so that all four oscillators can be at different octaves. But that is either impossible or not obvious with Hive. I see others on YouTube wondering about this. The octaves were the first thing I fiddled with in Sylenth. Also, is it true that the sub-oscillators are more limited than Sylenth's third and fourth oscillators?

I really hope they add some vocal-type sounds and an XY thingy to Hive.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:49 am

martingifford wrote:
tedlogan wrote: Your presets are stored in whichever folder Hive's browser is currently in/you were browsing in. If you want to avoid this, before clicking "save", click on "presets" first to open the browser, navigate to the folder you'd like to save it in, and click "save". Just be careful not to click on another preset before saving as you'd lose all your work! You can make your own user folder, which is recommended, by right-clicking in the folder tree and choosing "create new folder". This will create it within whichever folder you right-clicked on. You can also drag and drop your presets from one folder to another.
Thanks Ted. I made a silly mistake - looking for my initials in the preset titles but they are in the author section. I backed up my preset folder then installed the new version of Hive and it kept all the old presets and just added new factory preset folders - logical but I wasn't sure it would do that.

I was getting depressed about music and Hive after the old presets weren't very usable for my stuff. I was also hearing a bit of digitality in Hive and everywhere else, which started happening after playing with Serum when it came out. But this new release of Hive with all the new patches sounds very warm and analogue and rich. Some great new presets in there, and very usable. Every new preset sounds great!

Still haven't figured out about the sub-oscillators. With Sylenth you can you instantly change the octave so that all four oscillators can be at different octaves. But that is either impossible or not obvious with Hive. I see others on YouTube wondering about this. The octaves were the first thing I fiddled with in Sylenth. Also, is it true that the sub-oscillators are more limited than Sylenth's third and fourth oscillators?

I really hope they add some vocal-type sounds and an XY thingy to Hive.

You can have 4 independent octaves with Hive. The oscillators can be set to 2 octaves above or below their master oscillator. Simply move their semi-tone control up or down.

As for being more limited, it can be the case. In sylenth1 you have 4 fully independent oscs, they can be any wave shape and have any stacking amount. In Hive the 2 sub oscs are slaves. They can have their own wave forms but you can't set their stacking amount independently. You can however set them to simply copy their master osc. So if Osc1 is a 16 stacked square, so will the sub be, but at a different pitch (if you choose).

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:38 am

This has probably been said/requested already, but something like a vowel filter would be a great addition. And, in regards to previous posts, maybe Urs would consider copying the Sylenth paradigm and giving us 2 sets of oscs/filters. I realize Hive is meant to be "simple", but it'll be interesting to see what 1.0 will be like.

martingifford · Post by **martingifford** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:43 am

Aiyn Zahev,

Thanks. I see.

BTW, I liked your presets the best because they were instantly usable for pop, and very forward and present.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:51 am

ariston wrote:...maybe Urs would consider (etc.)

The benefits and drawbacks of slave oscillators vs regular ones were considered - the slaves won.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:32 pm

Howard wrote:
ariston wrote:...maybe Urs would consider (etc.)
The benefits and drawbacks of slave oscillators vs regular ones were considered - the slaves won.

I wasn't talking about the slaves, I basically meant giving us two Hives in one, with the added complexity of inter-routing between layers. And maybe some FM while we're at it. And now that I mention it, why not some wavetables? And more filter types? And I'd also appreciate some complex MSEGs, or at the very least freely drawable ADSRs...

Okay, okay, I get it. But a comb and vowel filter would be really welcome!

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:42 pm

Btw here's my submission for OSC. All sound from Hive, of course.

https://soundcloud.com/xamido/ego

And here's all of the preset i've made for Hive so far. Don't expect anything fancy, i'm just a beginner in sound design. So i don't know how to do crazy modulation.

https://db.tt/TLmIll6r

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:24 pm

xamido,,
your track is really fresh, great job, i like it!

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:28 pm

Some examples of more Hive patches stapled together, mainly loops made in its sequencer. A single instance of Hive is playing at any one time, no external processing blah blah (does anyone care?):
Sorry, not much EDM here - there are literally tens of thousands of patches already spread across hundreds of synths.

https://soundcloud.com/tedtheodorelogan ... uencesarps

Gentle sequences:
https://soundcloud.com/tedtheodorelogan ... rps-gentle

atmospheres leaning more towards the menacing side:
https://soundcloud.com/tedtheodorelogan ... tmospheres

lastly, a bit of music from the 1999 game System shock 2 - a classic. On Deck 5 there's a little garden. This music always plays when you're near or in it. I haven't played it in donkey years (nor anything anymore), but this always stuck with me. This is a slightly more complex version. How obscure can it get? Gong hits first though, because Hive is making a gong sound:
https://soundcloud.com/tedtheodorelogan ... em-shock-2

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