KVR Audio

Syntilla · Post by **Syntilla** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:10 pm

wagtunes wrote:You have renewed my faith in Synthedit VST design.

Did you dl this from Martin's (google) site, or the direct link above / FB?
Only the former is SE (and that was only for the GUI).

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:24 pm

Syntilla wrote:
wagtunes wrote:You have renewed my faith in Synthedit VST design.
Did you dl this from Martin's (google) site, or the direct link above / FB?
Only the former is SE (and that was only for the GUI).

The first one I downloaded from his site. The 2nd one (the recent update) I downloaded from FB.

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:05 pm

wagtunes wrote:First I'm hearing of this. Most Synthedit synths I take with a grain of salt but when I heard the sound of this thing I was truly impressed. Martin, this is a piece of work and obviously a labor of love to have worked on it for so many years.

You have renewed my faith in Synthedit VST design.

Please, keep in mind that the new version is purely C++ (no SynthEdit).
But that said, there should be no big difference in sound between the new and the old SE version. The main reason I moved towards a native plugin was Mac and 64 bit compatibility (which now also seems in reach for SE...).

Also, as mentioned before, the sound engine of the Synthedit was a C++ coded custom module.

Cheers,
Martin

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:07 pm

martin_l wrote:
wagtunes wrote:First I'm hearing of this. Most Synthedit synths I take with a grain of salt but when I heard the sound of this thing I was truly impressed. Martin, this is a piece of work and obviously a labor of love to have worked on it for so many years.

You have renewed my faith in Synthedit VST design.
Please, keep in mind that the new version is purely C++ (no SynthEdit).
But that said, there should be no big difference in sound between the new and the old SE version. The main reason I moved towards a native plugin was Mac and 64 bit compatibility (which now also seems in reach for SE...).

Also, as mentioned before, the sound engine of the Synthedit was a C++ coded custom module.

Cheers,
Martin

Well, however you did it, the thing sounds amazing.

I tip my cap to you sir (if I was wearing one) LOL

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:28 pm

Congratulations on the latest release!

Hard to believe it's been four years since you first announced it.

Many thanks.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:58 pm

Latest beta from FB.
Looks like a denormal problem in 32 bit version: CPU usage is good when playing, eats up a whole core when not playing.

[edit]
Same thing in 64 bit version.

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:11 pm

bftucker wrote: Hard to believe it's been four years since you first announced it.

Sorry for the slow progress. I am doing this only in between my real job and family.

Martin

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:12 pm

Mutant wrote:Latest beta from FB.
Looks like a denormal problem in 32 bit version: CPU usage is good when playing, eats up a whole core when not playing.

[edit]
Same thing in 64 bit version.

Which host are you using, and which processor do you have?
For me (reaper on Win7, Intel i7 2600) it takes a few percent on one core.

Cheers,
Martin

DJMaytag · Post by **DJMaytag** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:25 pm

martin_l wrote:The main reason I moved towards a native plugin was Mac and 64 bit compatibility

Mac compatability? YES!!!

bftucker · Post by **bftucker** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:58 pm

martin_l wrote:
bftucker wrote: Hard to believe it's been four years since you first announced it.
Sorry for the slow progress. I am doing this only in between my real job and family.

Martin

Progress is progress! And I sincerely appreciate what you have accomplished with PG-8X.

RexXx · Post by **RexXx** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:07 pm

Thanks for the update!

First look:
* MIDI Learn "Default" (clean) button

* coloured program edit/write indicator in the "LCD Display" is back

* Filter noise control
* Save (export) sysex bank!
* GUI: darker background, larger button font, parameters lines
...
Very good, Martin

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:23 pm

I found an old version of it from 2011 in my plugin folder...

But the new version sounds much better, much less aliasing than default Synthedit oscillators!

This synth has a nice 80ies "oldschool" flavor!

martin_l · Post by **martin_l** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:31 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote: But the new version sounds much better, much less aliasing than default Synthedit oscillators!

That has nothing to do with SynthEdit, though. The old SynthEdit version did not use the standard SE oscillators, and had a custom antialias filter.

In fact, the new version uses the same code for the oscillators, and I only changed the code for the anti alias filters in the current version.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:50 pm

martin_l wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote: But the new version sounds much better, much less aliasing than default Synthedit oscillators!
That has nothing to do with SynthEdit, though. The old SynthEdit version did not use the standard SE oscillators, and had a custom antialias filter.

In fact, the new version uses the same code for the oscillators, and I only changed the code for the anti alias filters in the current version.

So it's not the oscillators that sound better but the filters? Anyway, I hear slightly less phasing than in other Synthedit synths!

BTW, my impression is that the default oscillators in Synthmaker synths sound much worse (with more phase cancellations) than in Synthedit synths...

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:12 pm

martin_l wrote:For me (reaper on Win7, Intel i7 2600) it takes a few percent on one core.

Yes it takes few percent when playing.
The problem starts when the synth is not producing any sound.
REAPER, Win 7 too.

PG8X (inspired by the JX8P): new beta version uploaded