Omnisphere 2 is here! (yes, it's really here!)

[thehiddenshadow]

I saw video with Eric on Namm and that guy really loves his job, such an enthusiastic person, great presentation.

[xx JPRacer xx]

Can anybody verify if eric has sampled the sound of a rhino pissing on a rare volcanic piece of rock yet?...that would be good

[neverenoughfunk]

Can anybody verify if eric has sampled the sound of a rhino pissing on a rare volcanic piece of rock yet?...that would be good

not a rhino... but a emperor scorpion...

[AstralExistence]

just bought omnisphere again and already have bob moog expansion. i was an utter moron for selling it. seems a lot of people also sold omnisphere.

[Dúnedain]

Can Omnisphere 2 layer multiple samples across 1 patch/preset/instrument (whatever you want to name it) where each freely imported sample has its own:

• high key, low key and root key
• amp envelope
• filter envelope and its own filter cut off frequency
• pan
• at least 2 LFO's

[noiseboyuk]

Can Omnisphere 2 layer multiple samples across 1 patch/preset/instrument (whatever you want to name it) where each freely imported sample has its own:

• high key, low key and root key
• amp envelope
• filter envelope and its own filter cut off frequency
• pan
• at least 2 LFO's

Not really. You could sort of do that using a multi, 8 x 2 layers (one sample per layer with its own amp / filter / pan / lfos) and each pair can be given its own keyboard zone. But it would feel like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

It's not really designed as a multi-sampler. If you spin back on this thread you'll see various comments from Eric Persing on twitter that they deliberately didn't want to go down the multisampled route and confuse the issue further about whether or not Omni is a full fledged sampler.

I can understand this. I'm reading Inside Apple at the moment, and one interesting point is that Jobs was always very hot on knowing what NOT to do. "Pick one thing and do it well", he told Yahoo. As it is, Omnisphere still has people confused that it's "just a rompler" (because it has a lot of playback samples), and ignoring the soft synth side and all the manipulation you can do. It's already a beast - if it also tried to take on Kontakt or Mach Five, there's every chance it would over-reach. All they'd get is complaints - "so you can't import sfz" / "you can't manually reset round robin" / "what so you can't even script?". I think they saw a bottomless pit, and decided to keep the focus on what Omni is - in essence, a synth not a sampler, though you can now import single samples to use a soundsources for further synthesis and treatment.

[Dúnedain]

Not really. You could sort of do that using a multi, 8 x 2 layers (one sample per layer with its own amp / filter / pan / lfos) and each pair can be given its own keyboard zone. But it would feel like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Thank you. But this implies the answer is yes, isn't it? And why 8 x 2? Say I just need 4 samples to lay across the keyboard, am I still left with 8 x 2 = 16 layers?

[Ned Bouhalassa]

... seems a lot of people also sold omnisphere.

Not really. I doubt this very, very much.

[noiseboyuk]

Not really. You could sort of do that using a multi, 8 x 2 layers (one sample per layer with its own amp / filter / pan / lfos) and each pair can be given its own keyboard zone. But it would feel like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Thank you. But this implies the answer is yes, isn't it? And why 8 x 2? Say I just need 4 samples to lay across the keyboard, am I still left with 8 x 2 = 16 layers?

Omnisphere's architecture is 8 patches per instance. Each patch has two layers, and each layer has either a waveform or a soundsource (you can then add other oscillators etc via Harmonia or Unison, and of course there's all the synthesis options such as granular, waveshaper etc).

Typically folks would use those 8 patches on 8 midi channels, instead of using 8 separate instances. But you can combine patches using the Multi, either splitting them across the keyboard, stacking them or switching in a Live mode. So in your case, you could make 4 patches for 4 samples (just single layer patches) and range them at will.

It just feels a little clumsy to me - if you wanted to treat all 4 samples the same in terms of synthesis, it wouldn't be very elegant to keep tweaking the other three patches to follow. So that's what I mean about sledgehammers and nuts - it just feels like it might not be the best tool for the job. But there's no fundamental reason why it wouldn't work if you needed some limited multisample ability on the Omni engine - up to 2 velocity layers per patch and up to 8 zones on the keyboard.

Probably worth watching a couple of the Spectrasonics Omni 1 videos here - https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/ ... TypeID=all - especially Stack mode. Just remember that with Omni 2, each patch can have 2 samples, each on their own layer. You could crossfade each layer by velocity but I don't think you can easily set the keyranges for each layer (someone may be able to correct me).

[taijiguy]

So new users get Omnisphere 2 for $499 and current users get it for $749? Hardly seems fair.

[Dúnedain]

I watched that video about stack-mode in Omnisphere 1. It seems this is the way to do it, but it might indeed be overkill. I think I am more safe by going for Air Structure for may sample layering jobs, which I described in more detail a few posts above this one.

[noiseboyuk]

So new users get Omnisphere 2 for $499 and current users get it for $749? Hardly seems fair.

Please go to page 1 of the thread - this subject has been discussed to death. Still loads of other interesting things to talk about though.

[firepile]

So new users get Omnisphere 2 for $499 and current users get it for $749? Hardly seems fair.

Here we go again...

It isn't fair either that new Cubase 8 users get it for $499 while current users may have spent more than $1000 over the years

[Ben H]

[whyterabbyt]

So new users get Omnisphere 2 for $499 and current users get it for $749? Hardly seems fair.

Tell you what, as soon as you can arrange for all those new users to get years of retrospective useage, you can have it for free.