KVR Audio

TwoToneshuzz · Post by **TwoToneshuzz** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:06 pm

jtenney wrote:+1 on the possibilities of Audio Hijack. I've used it the same way for a long time, just straight audio capture. Interesting thought, using it to substitute for a bounce, and being able to control parameters as I go in real time, rather than laying down automation. It would be very simple, there wouldn't have to be any hosting involved of KS involved, just straight capture and then open the file in an audio editor... It could also work for programs with quirks, like Crusher X, where you can't automate side chain changes for example... This is an eye-opener, thanks!

You are welcome. I also use Fission to do my quick and dirty audio editing. I think recently it's been implemented to edit mono files extracted from stereo. Which was useful for making your own tun files as Simon just described.. Only Fission costs pennies compared to Wavelab..

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:39 pm

Voice303 wrote:
Galbanum wrote:Mathematics is the language of nature", as it has been said before...
Anytime anyone says that quote I think of the beginning of Sasha's GU Ibiza: BT - Fibonacci Sequence .

Yes, this is why I put it in quotes. This is what I was quoting.

Voice303 wrote: Still one of my favorite mix comps from the golden era of prog.

Agree!

This was back when "prog" meant "prog" and not Paris Hilton dishing our snare rolls, sirens, super saws, and cheesy pop vocals.

Hopefully KS can help reinvigorate some cool sound-design in dance music. I don't think we really need any more super saws...

TwoToneshuzz · Post by **TwoToneshuzz** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:13 am

I'm finally getting some quality time with Kaleidoscope, it was through trial and error that I found this solution

A Mach Five 3.2.1 Drum Kit call TasteDrumJazz being sent into my Arts Acoustic CL series Compressor, hosted in Numerology4 Pro using a series of 4 Drum sequencers, where I played around to find sounds and rhythms that played well with a Kaleidoscope preset called Naturally Complex from the Nano Rhythm Melodic subset. Then I used Audio Hijack 2.4.11 to capture the output from Numerology, and hosted a 2C B2 instance, from there recorded the output to a disk that was only used for recording..

So this all played well together plenty of headroom for CPU. Now I'm splicing the raw experiments in Logic X, and will tweak and tune the timing using flextime, perhaps create some more sounds in Kaleidoscope..and blend to taste.

Once it all works, well with no glitches and crashes it's really fun to work with and seems pretty intuitive.. I've not spent much time with the manual as yet. But after some more experimentation I pick it apart.

I think I will jump on this at the last minute before the intro price expires..

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:21 am

Update on the update: we found a little bug in 1.0.1 last night. As soon as we fix it we will post 1.0.1. This has the much more efficient String resonators and other other misc fixes.

Following that we will continue to explore the Retina Display stuff etc. and likely follow up with a 1.0.2 shortly aft that.

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:12 am

Another test as before but now using slightly more optimized Spring resonators.

Important discovery: (in Cubase 8 and Logic 10 on OSX at least), multiple instances seem to give the best performance when Multi-threading is set to 100%. (200, 300, 400% seem to make maters worse for unknown reasons. Too much competition between threads perhaps?) This test was done with both the host/hardware buffer and the KS buffer set to 1024. Note this is 40% better than my previous result, which is quite significant, and this test achieves almost perfect ultization of all cores/threads on my 12-core machine!

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http://www.2caudio.com/sitecontent/prod ... tances.png

8 instances live in Cubase 8.0.5.

Maximum possible settings for Spring Resonator mode for each instance:

• 512 Active Lines
• Double Spring Res Mode
• Dual Dynamic Modulation

Multiplied by 14 stereo instances this is:

• 14,336 voices
• 29,360,128 points of automation

Realtime!

Phorous · Post by **Phorous** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:22 am

Question Galbanum, what is the % threading? Does that scale linearly with the number of threads Kaleidoscope is spawning? Ive never seen multithreading settings expressed that way.

I assume 100% spawns a thread for each physical CPU core or HT thread and 200% does 2 for each core? I may be totally off base but just curious

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:32 am

It is % of Logical cores that your system has. I have a 12-core Mac Pro cylinder. This has 24 logical cores because of hyper threading.

so for my system:

25% = 6 Threads
50% = 12 Threads
75% = 18 Threads
100% = 24 Threads
200% = 48 Threads
300% = 72 Threads
400% = 96 Threads

The "more than 100%" settings are "experimental" as we noticed faster render times in offline hosts in some cases.

But I just noticed Cubase and Logic don't see to like values more than 100% when really trying to push the system to the max with a bunch of instances...

As it says in the manual, 100% is the default, and should be the normal choice, unless you would like to try to do some kind of analysis on your system to see if anything give a slight advantage...

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:08 am

https://soundcloud.com/2caudio/ks-flower-pot

two KS instances, one breeze, on V-Comp. Nothing else. KS creates the sound source here.

A tip/trick/secret: render two different versions of the same timing/performance structure using two different tonalities... Maybe one is tonal with longer feedback and the other is shorter with atonal noisy kind of stuff... Mix them.

Cool stuff happens.

A lot of real-world instruments have this kind of thing happening.... so, surprise, surprise, this kind of thing is cool in KS also...

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:18 am

This one is not so nice, but rather interesting.

Processing a field recording I recorded in a Seoul temple some years ago - with a singing monk, some claves and birds in the background - with Kaleidoscope, some compression, multiband distortion and reverb post KS.

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/kaleidomonks

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:12 am

Just bought ArtMatic, couldn't resist, now the real fun begins

krankyone · Post by **krankyone** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:37 am

https://soundcloud.com/johnkoranek/gamelon-john-koranek

I'm really loving KS. This piece was made running four drum synthesizers into KS and dynamically changing the tuning and timbre of each one. I'm amazed at the sound, espcially because I did not use any reverb.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:21 am

Would love it if there was a way to import ms images. One of my fav things to do in ms is converting audio into images. Would be insane if ks could do that.

TwoToneshuzz · Post by **TwoToneshuzz** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:10 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:Just bought ArtMatic, couldn't resist, now the real fun begins

Looks very interesting. I'm doomed.. at least my bank account is doomed..

Andrew Souter · Post by **Andrew Souter** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:14 am

https://soundcloud.com/2caudio/ks-particle-fever

One KS instance.

(mp3 looses some of the detail, but still pretty cool...)

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:19 am

Is there a deal on Artmatic only somewhere like the Metasynth ones that pop up (combined with Artmatic)?

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