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squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:15 am

Shabdahbriah wrote:Hello. I bought this when it first came out, and can not log-in {or change my password} to get any updates, though I have received notice that they are available.

Does the 'key file' change the demo to full version?

thanks

Hi,

The key file doesn't not change the demo to full version, since demo has been ripped. About your password problems, please email us to: orders [at] squaredheads [dot] com

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:16 am

Naenyn wrote:I'm interested in trying out the MIDI FX version of Nora. If you need another 10.10 LPX tester, hit me up.

Don't worry, it will be out in few days, hopefully this weekend (or the next monday - tuesday). Anyway, thank you

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:22 am

squaredheads wrote:
nexussynth wrote:is this the same as the MFX plugins that Cakewalk is still using? that could be good for Sonar users as it allows easy insertion in a track (midi f/x) and these always had less hassles than VST.

anyway, great news to hear 2.2 will be out real soon! good work.

Kalamata Kid wrote:I am also curious only for Logic!? I have a PC and no logic.
They're different formats. VST plugins allow MIDI Output, but AU plugins doesn't. So, for these sequencers on Mac that only work with AU plugins (Like Logic) cannot use Nora directly, as you're doing with the VST version. That's why Nora AU creates a virtual MIDI port in Mac, but this method has some caveats like:
- The routing may not be saved with the project
- There is an undesired lack of accuracy with the output notes.

So, instead fixing AU, Apple created another format that only work with Logic Pro X, based on the AU specifications (AU SDK), that allows you use Nora as you're doing with the VST in a PC, without using virtual MIDI ports and with a perfect timming, but using a different format.

I will search and read the Sonar MFX documentation the next week. If it's easy to implement and it's based on the VST SDK, I'll generate a MFX version for Sonar - I cannot re-code 200.000 lines only for that version )

squareheads,

Thanks for the prompt reply. Now I am very glad that I have a PC and VSTi.

The Sonar MFX supported also by Cubase from what I recall is superior to VSTi midi fx which is what Nora is. Don’t know why the MFX is superior. One big plus is that it fits before the VSTi and therefore does not need a track to function.

timbesamusca · Post by **timbesamusca** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:04 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:
squaredheads wrote:
nexussynth wrote:is this the same as the MFX plugins that Cakewalk is still using? that could be good for Sonar users as it allows easy insertion in a track (midi f/x) and these always had less hassles than VST.

anyway, great news to hear 2.2 will be out real soon! good work.

Kalamata Kid wrote:I am also curious only for Logic!? I have a PC and no logic.
They're different formats. VST plugins allow MIDI Output, but AU plugins doesn't. So, for these sequencers on Mac that only work with AU plugins (Like Logic) cannot use Nora directly, as you're doing with the VST version. That's why Nora AU creates a virtual MIDI port in Mac, but this method has some caveats like:
- The routing may not be saved with the project
- There is an undesired lack of accuracy with the output notes.

So, instead fixing AU, Apple created another format that only work with Logic Pro X, based on the AU specifications (AU SDK), that allows you use Nora as you're doing with the VST in a PC, without using virtual MIDI ports and with a perfect timming, but using a different format.

I will search and read the Sonar MFX documentation the next week. If it's easy to implement and it's based on the VST SDK, I'll generate a MFX version for Sonar - I cannot re-code 200.000 lines only for that version )
squareheads,

Thanks for the prompt reply. Now I am very glad that I have a PC and VSTi.

The Sonar MFX supported also by Cubase from what I recall is superior to VSTi midi fx which is what Nora is. Don’t know why the MFX is superior. One big plus is that it fits before the VSTi and therefore does not need a track to function.

I second the motion for a midi fx plugin version for PC! But only if it is not too much work for you of course!

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:06 am

forget about the MFX for PC because it's not base on the vst sdk, it's abandoned afaik

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:56 pm

carrieres wrote:forget about the MFX for PC because it's not base on the vst sdk, it's abandoned afaik

Yes, unfortunately it seems. I had been reading about it, but most of the docs/forum links provided by Cakewalk are dead. It seems it's based in an old plugin system, DirectX SDK, instead VST SDK. Anyway, I'll investigate it more the next week.

No_Use · Post by **No_Use** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:28 pm

Here are some mfx plugins for reference

http://www.midiplugins.com/

But I agree, (more or less) dead format and probably not worth the hassle.

nexussynth · Post by **nexussynth** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:34 am

it's only dead format because Cakewalk is a lame company imo and Steinberg has pushed VST very aggressively.

for midi f/x it is ideal.

but even so i appreciate looking in to it!

NORA is the best thing to happen to midi plugins in a very long time..

nexussynth · Post by **nexussynth** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:09 am

nexussynth wrote:it's only dead format because Cakewalk is a lame company imo and Steinberg has pushed VST very aggressively.

for midi f/x it is ideal.

but even so i appreciate looking in to it!

NORA is the best thing to happen to midi vst or any plugins in a very long time..

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:17 am

squaredheads wrote:
Hi,

The key file doesn't not change the demo to full version, since demo has been ripped. About your password problems, please email us to: orders [at] squaredheads [dot] com

Will do. Thanks.

MorpherX · Post by **MorpherX** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:56 pm

Good progress in v2.2, especially the expantion to 64 pattern.
Would it be possible to also expand from 8 to 16 tracks, because many multitimbral VSTi have 16 MIDI-Channels.

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:20 pm

Hi, for our registered users: You can download Nora 2.2 from your Persona Data page already. There is no need to use a new key file, it will use the same than previous version. We will send a proper newsletter this monday. Happy phrasing!

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:21 pm

MorpherX wrote:Good progress in v2.2, especially the expantion to 64 pattern.
Would it be possible to also expand from 8 to 16 tracks, because many multitimbral VSTi have 16 MIDI-Channels.

It will, in a close future version. You will be able add/remove tracks.

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:24 pm

Still seeing 2.01 in mine

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:28 pm

Well, to update Nora you must loging in our web page, then go to the BUY section and click on Nora 2.2 (adquire gift), then go back to your Personal Data page and you will be able to download 2.2.

We will improve this procedure as soon as possible.

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