9 year old Sylenth1 just keeps kickin

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Is 9 year old Sylenth1 the de facto standard for EDM?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:52 am

Of Course
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Are you kidding?
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Most top producers use it but I'm just not sure
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No, synth x,y,z has more features, PWM, is 64bit and has more modulation options.
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Just wanted to mention about soundbanks that are available for Sylenth1..

There are probably so many soundbanks for it as some people copy others work, and then probably tweek and change them a bit, and then save it again. Wow!!! A new soundbank for Sylenth1!!!

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Agreed, the sounds in the video are not really top notch. Actually not even close to the sounds of the tracks which melody he plays. But then, why bother if there's so many good sounsets available, or you can just create your own ones. :shrug:

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Examigan wrote:There are probably so many soundbanks for it as some people copy others work, and then probably tweek and change them a bit, and then save it again. Wow!!! A new soundbank for Sylenth1!!!
Psssst... that's how it works! ;) Most soundsets from third parties are just based on the factory presets.

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The noise of that guy's keyboard would drive me nuts :hihi: I mean, it is so loud, I would have to use headphones all the time to make sure my attacks are clean.

Sure, it is an "analog" synth, but I don't get why people keep saying it is "so limited" and things like that. A lot of people don't need and want wavetable, FM, etc. If they do, they should indeed look elsewhere because that is not what Sylenth1 is made for. It's like complaining a SUV does not go as fast as a Corvette. It is not intended to...

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My 37 year old Korg MS-20 just keeps kickin. Just saying.
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fluffy_little_something wrote:Sure, it is an "analog" synth, but I don't get why people keep saying it is "so limited" and things like that.
Because it is. I mean even the V-Station from 2003 (!!!) can do a lot more.

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V-Station has a 8-voice unison mode which basically makes it monophonic, whilst with Sylenth, you have 8-voices for any of the 4 oscillators and you don't run out of voices. It has 2 filters, bandpass, and highpass, it has 2 ADSR's, freely assignable, while V-Station has only a filter envelope, it has a layer function, freely assignable LFO's (the ones in V-Station are only assignable to some stuff), you can pan the oscillators, and and and... V-Station has a ring modulator, yep, big deal.

Not sure why this is important anyway. You don't dig simple synths, that's fine. There's loads of more complicated ones out there.

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fluffy_little_something wrote:Sure, it is an "analog" synth, but I don't get why people keep saying it is "so limited" and things like that. A lot of people don't need and want wavetable, FM, etc. If they do, they should indeed look elsewhere because that is not what Sylenth1 is made for. It's like complaining a SUV does not go as fast as a Corvette. It is not intended to...
Sylenth doesn't sound analog at all. It sounds digital. The bass is weak in Sylenth... not even remotely close to a decent analog monosynth. And of course the supersaw sound is a digital creation!! When people start saying Sylenth sounds analog is when you know the word no longer has any meaning.

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Examigan wrote:Just wanted to mention about soundbanks that are available for Sylenth1..

There are probably so many soundbanks for it as some people copy others work, and then probably tweek and change them a bit, and then save it again. Wow!!! A new soundbank for Sylenth1!!!
For years now, every new Sylenth soundbank sounds just like ones I already heard before. The thing has been way over cooked for a long time.

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chk071 wrote:V-Station has a 8-voice unison mode which basically makes it monophonic, whilst with Sylenth, you have 8-voices for any of the 4 oscillators and you don't run out of voices. It has 2 filters, bandpass, and highpass, it has 2 ADSR's, freely assignable, while V-Station has only a filter envelope, it has a layer function, freely assignable LFO's (the ones in V-Station are only assignable to some stuff), you can pan the oscillators, and and and... V-Station has a ring modulator, yep, big deal.
That's just a feature comparison ;) Of course the V-Station is limited in its own way but their range of sounds is much broader than the one of Sylenth1. And the V-Station not just has RM, it also has FM and *real* PWM.

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pdxindy wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Sure, it is an "analog" synth, but I don't get why people keep saying it is "so limited" and things like that. A lot of people don't need and want wavetable, FM, etc. If they do, they should indeed look elsewhere because that is not what Sylenth1 is made for. It's like complaining a SUV does not go as fast as a Corvette. It is not intended to...
Sylenth doesn't sound analog at all. It sounds digital. The bass is weak in Sylenth... not even remotely close to a decent analog monosynth. And of course the supersaw sound is a digital creation!! When people start saying Sylenth sounds analog is when you know the word no longer has any meaning.
I did not say it sounds analog, I was referring to the type of synth it represents.

I like the way it sounds, whether it is authentic analog or not, I couldn't care less. Except for the crappy JX-8P I have never had an analog synth, and I didn't even like it, I have no use for the Minimoog kind of sound, which Sylenth can do as well, though. Sylenth is so much more flexible than my Roland was. And it allows me to emulate real instruments much closer than the Roland. I never use Supersaw, I hate that sound, just like I hate EDM. The bass is very good and low, I can hear it on my studio headphones.

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Hm, must have missed the FM on the V-Station. Anyway. I guess it highly depends on what you're after anyway if you need this or that. It's quite amazing what you already get out of simple synths. And tbh, when i listen to the sounds in music i like, i'm often thinking "well, that's just a very simple sound one can achieve with any simple subtractive style synth with only the basic analog waveforms". Even in ambient, the sounds are very often not overly sophisticated. That's why i sometimes wonder about overly complicated patches in soundsets too. Sometimes makes me feel like the sound designer tried hard to make it complex, and then it often doesn't even sound very special or good.

Anyway, each to its like of course, and i'm not a fan of overly simple stuff either, but Sylenth1 gained it's fame surely not for its feature set, but its sound. If you don't like the sound, that's perfectly fine too.

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sylenth1 is shocking flexible and you can create and get a lot of different sounds for it.

it will be mind blowing, when LD comes with its update later this year.

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This synth is an enigma. In a world where old tech gets tossed out the window as soon as the next better thing comes along, I find it totally head scratching that this is still arguably the most popular synth out there. I mean just look at all the top synth lists. This one is number 1 on almost all of them.

And quite honestly, I don't get.

I can maybe understand old users hanging onto it because they like the sound, have used it for a while, are familiar with it and thus can do just about anything with it. It's certainly a fine sounding synth and what it does it does well. There is no disputing that.

What I can't understand is new musicians coming onto the scene and choosing this synth over the multitude of options that are more powerful, more versatile, sound just as good, can do all the same sounds, AND...are cheaper or just as cheap. That doesn't even touch on the 64 bit issue. I am not spending that kind of money on a synth that may not run well on my machine.

And for just a little bit more money, you can get synths that, feature and sound wise, blow this thing out of the water.

I could understand if this was a "budget" synth. Just like with cars, not everybody can afford a Lexus. But this isn't a budget synth.

Here is a list of synths that I have purchased that blow this synth out of the water and their prices at the time.

Serum - $129
Discovery Pro - $95
Blue II - $107
ImpOSCar 2 - $150
MUX Modular - $61
KarmaFX Modular - $72
Tone 2 Rayblaster - $189
Tone 2 Electra 2 - $199
Sonic Academy A.N.A. - $80
MPowerSynth - $88
Waves Element - $76
Image-Line Harmor - $60
Synthmaster - $60
Zebra 2 - $199

Why would I spend $158 on 9 year old tech that is superseded by synths that are only slightly more expensive, in some cases, and much less in other?

It makes no sense unless you're so totally in love with the sound. And I find that hard to believe given what other synths are capable of sounding like.

Yeah, my Zebra 2 is $40 more. That $40 more blows Sylenth totally out of the water in versatility and sound quality. Anything Sylenth1 can do, sound wise, Zebra 2 can do in spades and more.

Like I said, this synth is a total enigma to me. I will never understand its continued popularity. Maybe if it was a $69 synth. But not at its current price.

It makes absolutely no sense.

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I agree that Sylenth1 should have dropped price a bit, but for sure it still has its use. There may be bigger, feature-rich synths out there, but another advantage of Sylenth is simplicity and low CPU usage. I don't always need to pick the biggest plugin out there to have the job done.
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