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thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:32 pm

Lack of demand from it's readers?

garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:36 pm

Hmm... If only it hadn't originally been called Fruity Loops...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:45 pm

garryknight wrote:Hmm... If only it hadn't originally been called Fruity Loops...

Do you think they'd mistake it with a cereal?

She Changed Her Mind · Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:03 pm

All madness on a stick, but what could SOS offer to FLS users what both FM and CM do not offer? Very little, I suppose. SOS is more an in depth mag regarded to audio production, I assume. While FLS users probably are more interested in specified procedures about audio production. Like: 'how do I get a _____ like _____?'

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:29 pm

Kriminal wrote:Teenagers dont buy SOS mag.

Teenagers don't buy anything but drugs.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:52 pm

Kriminal wrote:Teenagers dont buy SOS mag.

nor 'tweenies'

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:55 pm

chk071 wrote:
garryknight wrote:Hmm... If only it hadn't originally been called Fruity Loops...
Do you think they'd mistake it with a cereal?

Or some sort of toy.

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:12 pm

thecontrolcentre wrote:Lack of demand from it's readers?

How would you suggest they measure this hypothetical lack of demand?

Is there a lack of demand from it's readers for the seven page loops article in this month's issue?

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:16 pm

She Changed Her Mind wrote:All madness on a stick, but what could SOS offer to FLS users what both FM and CM do not offer? Very little, I suppose. SOS is more an in depth mag regarded to audio production, I assume. While FLS users probably are more interested in specified procedures about audio production. Like: 'how do I get a _____ like _____?'

The point is that they have reviewed some previous FL Studio versions, and I don't think they care what FM and CM can offer, they should be caring about their market. As I showed with my original post today, they have a LARGE article about loops. Previously in this thread (unless I'm mistaken) people have suggested that SOS isn't aimed at 'dance music' producers (producer meaning 'anybody who creates dance music', not the literal 'producer' in a studio). Their very long article on loops suggests otherwise.

My point being that a magazine as popular as SOS can sway opinion (as evidenced by the numerous 'white knights' in this thread, desperate to defend its decision) among a large proportion of the 'computer music making' community, and I wonder what their reasoning is. It will hardly affect FL Studio in any way, but I wonder why they don't want you to know about FL Studio 11, and then FL Studio 12 when it is finished, which will offer something pretty important that no other DAW (to my knowledge) offers - a vector based interface.

She Changed Her Mind · Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:44 pm

@basslinemaster

You are absolutely right about the reviews.

'The rather dark and compact user-interface might not appeal to some.'

A typical 'conclusion' of a SOS review IMO.
Totally off-road, but okay.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:12 pm

basslinemaster wrote:The point is that they have reviewed some previous FL Studio versions, and I don't think they care what FM and CM can offer, they should be caring about their market.

and yet that's what they're doing. unlike you, though, they actually know what their market is.

As I showed with my original post today, they have a LARGE article about loops. Previously in this thread (unless I'm mistaken) people have suggested that SOS isn't aimed at 'dance music' producers (producer meaning 'anybody who creates dance music', not the literal 'producer' in a studio). Their very long article on loops suggests otherwise.

Wow. A large article about loops, eh. Well that settles it. Clearly that's so dance specific that it pretty much obligates them to review your favourite toy. More than that, Im sure we can expect some equally suitable fodder like 'the ten best supersaw synth' style lists and in-depth studies of making wobbles. Because loops.

I wonder why they don't want you to know about FL Studio 11, and then FL Studio 12 when it is finished, which will offer something pretty important that no other DAW (to my knowledge) offers - a vector based interface.

Oh yeah, that's important all right.

Oh, and, erm, Tracktion. Vector-based UI for over a decade.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:25 pm

Yep.

Must be winter blahs...

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:01 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
basslinemaster wrote:The point is that they have reviewed some previous FL Studio versions, and I don't think they care what FM and CM can offer, they should be caring about their market.
and yet that's what they're doing. unlike you, though, they actually know what their market is.

Like I said, a lot of 'SOS white knights' on this forum, desperately defending everything they do.
Do you think it's acceptable that they didn't even allow readers to vote for FL Studio on their annual poll? You could vote for many other less popular DAWs, but not FL Studio... Why?

basslinemaster wrote: As I showed with my original post today, they have a LARGE article about loops. Previously in this thread (unless I'm mistaken) people have suggested that SOS isn't aimed at 'dance music' producers (producer meaning 'anybody who creates dance music', not the literal 'producer' in a studio). Their very long article on loops suggests otherwise.

whyterabbyt wrote: Wow. A large article about loops, eh. Well that settles it. Clearly that's so dance specific that it pretty much obligates them to review your favourite toy. More than that, Im sure we can expect some equally suitable fodder like 'the ten best supersaw synth' style lists and in-depth studies of making wobbles. Because loops.

So you're suggesting that most of the people who use loops are NOT making dance music? So you're also suggesting that most of the loop packs you can buy are NOT dance oriented, and specifically aimed at people who make dance music?

basslinemaster wrote:I wonder why they don't want you to know about FL Studio 11, and then FL Studio 12 when it is finished, which will offer something pretty important that no other DAW (to my knowledge) offers - a vector based interface.

whyterabbyt wrote: Oh yeah, that's important all right.

Oh, and, erm, Tracktion. Vector-based UI for over a decade.

Oh, so FL Studio 12's vector interface isn't important? Didn't know about Tracktion, does that negate anything else I've said? It's very interesting reading replies from irrational white knights...
So why did SOS feel it necessary to do a SEVEN page article on loops, if the magazine isn't aimed in any way at dance music producers?

But apparently FL Studio is verboten. Can't be mentioned in the magazine. You can't vote for it as your favourite DAW, and they won't review it. And then white knights here will claim that "the readers don't use it" - I wonder why that would be...

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:01 pm

trimph1 wrote:Yep.

Must be winter blahs...

Thank you for your valuable input.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:10 pm

basslinemaster wrote: So you're suggesting that most of the people who use loops are NOT making dance music? So you're also suggesting that most of the loop packs you can buy are NOT dance oriented, and specifically aimed at people who make dance music?

When I think of loops, I think of the 50s, and tape. While Dance Music was still made with guitars and real drums.

Why doesn't Sound on Sound mag. have an FL Studio section?