MeldaProduction

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:06 pm

I saw your email so I thought I would drop by and add my opinion to the mix. I don't like the subscription model for software personally. I could see it being useful for specific clients such as large educational institutions or something but long term it's still probably more cost effective to just buy what you want or need when wanted/needed. I'm still using stuff I bought ten years ago on a regular basis and the nature of this business is I can't budget for something like that, at least not on any scale if this were the model the industry were to adopt. Making a living producing music is hard enough without wondering which plugins need to be renewed this month. I don't feel that short term benefits outweigh any potential future headaches.

JJ

scook · Post by **scook** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:09 pm

I already own the MTotalBundle and am for any revenue scheme which keeps MeldaProduction viable. That said, if I were in the market for MTotalBundle, the subscription option would only be considered if some of the money could be applied toward purchase. Whether with a buyout option or "rent to own" payment plan, in the end, I would only get involved if it ultimately gave me the product I currently own.

rtucker55 · Post by **rtucker55** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:17 pm

I have not read the entire thread but wanted to weight in:

I enjoy your current license process and the fact that I can use it on my desk (during the day) and on my portable machine (in the evenings). The idea of a license on a single machine would cause me to look elsewhere for plugs. I also would not go for any e-licenser type deals.

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:21 pm

Why not just give an option to pay the full price in smaller monthly payments?

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:28 pm

Imagine I'd make a commercial album, so I could subscribe for the MTotalBundle for one year. Then the album is finished - so far, so good.

But what if I wanted to make some remixes a few years later? To use my project files with MTotalBundle effects, I'd have to subscribe to the MTotalBundle again!

That's why I'm against subscription models. I want to start my DAW, open the project and work on them at every time I want to, no matter whether tomorrow, next year or in five years...

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:32 pm

I don't think people understand the whole subscription deal, once you paid for the full amount over a period of time you keep the full product forever at whatever version its in. If you want to update to newest version you renew subscription until you paid for that in full which again, youll keep once complete. If its 1000 dollars full, you pay 99 for ten months and its yours forever.

Tagirijus · Post by **Tagirijus** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:35 pm

Maybe we should keep in mind that Meldaproduction already offers the best and lowest prices (according to my experience) ?

Well, I assume that there are companies out there which sell single plugins for the price Meldaproduction will give us ALL their plugins at once with lifetime free updates. I am a rather young composer and sounddesigner who tries to do it for a living and according to my feeling and experience: Meldaproduction has already unbeatable low prices!

And by the way: I also do not like subscription plans and similar things ...

Grizzellda · Post by **Grizzellda** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:37 pm

Vojtech,

Could it be that you're re-thinking the free updates?

After all, software is in a continual state of development, right? Once customers plunk down that bread, how do you get more? Or maybe you don't have cost of living expenses!

At any rate, I dont see too many others doing alot of "free updates".

If you are re-thinking it, as a customer I understand. This is my first KVR post but I've been here, reading, quite a while. This whole plug-in digital audio software scenario seems pretty darn competitive. Melda plugs are the "cat's pajamas" as far as I'm concerned, & well worth the coin. Fabulous value, really.

Sure, I'd rather pay up front & get lots of free stuff but how practical is that? Some dudes around here think good software grows on trees! Then why don't they just write it themselves? Oh yeah, because they can't. It takes some doing, right? The effort, the energy spent, the math! For heavens sake... It's easier to go on the internet & talk about software... and by golly the software we've got to talk about! And they complain yet!

I use SONAR - I think most of us know Cake's new model. It seems pretty dope actually, we'll have to see...The idea is monthly updates & bug fixes. Well, for SONAR, man that might be really appreciated. Of course SONAR doesn't have any problems...

I would consider a reasonable subscription, or up front purchase with modest fees for worthy updates. The frequent internet checks may not be to appealing, might rather go with PACE. I know what some people here will say, but so what? If the software is worth something, if it's professional, well I suppose you just gotta face reality!

timandmonica · Post by **timandmonica** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:40 pm

I think if you did it like a rent-to-own thing it would draw FAAAAAR more people. Say you spend $100/year for the Total Bundle. Each year you remind people that "You've already paid $xx.xx dollars toward a permanent license!" That would motivate people to make the new payment b/c of the psychological principle of Loss Aversion. People tend to make choices to avoid what they PERCEIVE as loss, so those long-term renters feel they're already invested in your bundle and don't want to lose what they've already paid in. It's the same principle that makes people eat all the food on their plate in a restaurant even though they're full, or makes them make the last payments on something they agreed to make "5 easy payments of $xx.xx". The sense of loss of previous investment is huge. This would allow you to make a $1000 sale that you normally would not have had, and they would feel a sense of commitment to your brand. If you only do a subscription model that doesn't give people a sense of commitment, I think you would gain far fewer overall customers and have less yearly renewals.

Well, there's my opinion! All the best to you, Vojtech, no matter what you decide!

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:42 pm

Tjgoa wrote:I don't think people understand the whole subscription deal, once you paid for the full amount over a period of time you keep the full product forever at whatever version its in. If you want to update to newest version you renew subscription until you paid for that in full which again, youll keep once complete. If its 1000 dollars full, you pay 99 for ten months and its yours forever.

But then - given that I wanted to buy it, anyway - I'd rather save money for some months, wait for the next sale and buy it then once and for all...

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 pm

And what if after 3 years of subscription business is suddenly closed?

tenfingers · Post by **tenfingers** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:50 pm

I like the idea as an option.
Will work for some people and situations.
As long as you have both options I'm all for it.

As for me, I find your plugins so deep that there's no way I'd learn how to use them all properly in a year!

Only own 2 (multibandtransient & mdynamiceq) and certainly plan to get more over time. If the subscription was out now I'd probably go for it purely for the extended demo period and as a way to get to know the plugs better. If you had some kind of arrangement where a certain portion of the rental fee could go towards credit for some plugins, even better.

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:53 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:... I'd rather save money for some months, wait for the next sale and buy it then once and for all...

True - but consider the 'impulse' purchases... at the end of the day a lot of any selling procedure is based on psychology.

In short: a huge price frightens, a small 'fee' attracts (regardless of the fine print).

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:10 pm

elassi wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:... I'd rather save money for some months, wait for the next sale and buy it then once and for all...
True - but consider the 'impulse' purchases... at the end of the day a lot of any selling procedure is based on psychology.

In short: a huge price frightens, a small 'fee' attracts (regardless of the fine print).

True, too, but I spoke solely from my POV as a customer. Are you Vojtech's marketing manager now, elassi?

Personally, the problem for me is that if more and more developers/companies/dealers/services/magazines etc. offered subscription models, I'd easily end up with more than 100 subscription fees in a month (for my newspaper, car, washing machine, smartphone, plugins, DAWs, other software, haircutter etc.), and I need a big EXCEL table to not to lose any oversight...

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:And what if after 3 years of subscription business is suddenly closed?

How is that different from buying and it still closes? after a year you would own it completely so you would keep it in full. But paying 3 years full subscription would be 3000 plus on a product that sells 1000. So at some point you need to cancel subscription soon after paying it off in full. If you want immediate updates then you could stay subscribed indefinitely though if you think its worth it. I'd use it as an option of using it while saving up and paying in full for it. So for however months it takes to save up you could be using it at the same time.

MeldaProduction

KVR Audio

How about yearly subscription pricing for MTotalBundle?

What do you think?