Hive preview (April 1 update)

[Nutrinoland]

Yes from the DAW
I see..Thank You

[Urs]

Not able to modulate Sequencer gate time as a modulation destination ?

is on the todo list

[Jee]

I'm having troubles with duo mode (not working apparently as both osc plays with one note played)...

That's normal. You shouldn't expect to hear only one oscillator if you have both active but only play one note.

I don't get it, it's written in the manual that duo is : lowest note plays 1st osc, highest note plays osc 2 or am I confusing ? What's the use of duo mode if not the case?

[Superkidmcsd]

Hi all,

I have 2 basic questions if anyone can help me out please?

1) is it possible to set unison voices for the sub oscs?
2) is it possible to detune the unison voices from one another on the sub osc?

Best Regards,

Aron.

[Urs]

1) is it possible to set unison voices for the sub oscs?

Not directly. The Subs are generally not unison - unless you set them to "like Osc" mode where they inherit waveform and unison setting from the main osc.

2) is it possible to detune the unison voices from one another on the sub osc?

No, it's the same detune as the main Osc in the "like Osc" setting. You can however use shift-drag or shift-wheel to fine detune the Sub against its main Osc.

Usually the Sub is then used to add an oscillator at a different interval (third, fifth, octave etc.). It doesn't make much sense to waste a Sub to get "more unison" from the main oscillator as the difference between 16 voices and 32 voices isn't very big. Therefore I don't think there's much necessity for separate detune control apart from the relative pitch between main Osc and Sub.

So while this may seem like a flaw at first glance, in practice it doesn't matter. What matters however is that the Subs get along with just two knobs instead of, say, 8

[Superkidmcsd]

1) is it possible to set unison voices for the sub oscs?

Not directly. The Subs are generally not unison - unless you set them to "like Osc" mode where they inherit waveform and unison setting from the main osc.

2) is it possible to detune the unison voices from one another on the sub osc?

No, it's the same detune as the main Osc in the "like Osc" setting. You can however use shift-drag or shift-wheel to fine detune the Sub against its main Osc.

Usually the Sub is then used to add an oscillator at a different interval (third, fifth, octave etc.). It doesn't make much sense to waste a Sub to get "more unison" from the main oscillator as the difference between 16 voices and 32 voices isn't very big. Therefore I don't think there's much necessity for separate detune control apart from the relative pitch between main Osc and Sub.

So while this may seem like a flaw at first glance, in practice it doesn't matter. What matters however is that the Subs get along with just two knobs instead of, say, 8

First of all, thankyou for the very quick response... very impressive.

Wow, I never thought of it like that, and it makes total sense and very logically thought out. Your onto a real winner here.

Right, off to play with hive again

[Howard]

I don't get it, it's written in the manual that duo is : lowest note plays 1st osc, highest note plays osc 2 or am I confusing ? What's the use of duo mode if not the case?

But that IS the case. If you play just one note, that note is simultaneously the lowest AND highest.

[aaron aardvark]

Still having the occasional problem where everything locks up on Hive (no controls on the gui will operate) unless I remove that track of Hive, and open a new track of Hive. Or, I shut down my Cubase LE4 and open it again. New problem: working on a song where I have a track of Hive with the AZ HIVE in Goa II Dirty factory patch with some tweaks: I called it AZ HIVE in Goa II Dirty-SEQ-RCS (changed some notes in the sequence, and maybe a few other tweaks). If I close the Hive gui, it keeps changing the patch back to the original AZ HIVE in Goa II Dirty patch, in name only. The patch still has the tweaks I want, except for the patch name. I wonder if it has to do with my patch name being so long. If I only minimize the gui, this problem does not occur. Mac OSX 10.6.8.

[Jee]

I don't get it, it's written in the manual that duo is : lowest note plays 1st osc, highest note plays osc 2 or am I confusing ? What's the use of duo mode if not the case?

But that IS the case. If you play just one note, that note is simultaneously the lowest AND highest.

OK my bad, I missunderstood the duo mode, works fine thanks.

[tedlogan]

In Ableton Live 9.1.7, when using the "configure" panel to map VST parameters:

The sequencer's transposition value displays are not exactly in sync with the host (I'd deduct from this that it's probably the same for the rest of the parameters EDIT: yes it is).

Example:

"SEQ:Transpose01" - when changing the value from 0 to 1, Hive would still actually be on value zero for a few micro-steps before also changing to 1. 1 to 2, 2 to 3 is the same and so on.

I've got all the sequencer parameters mapped for use with Push (which is just what I've always wanted in Zebra - now that it's here - just superb!), so using one's ears is actually ok to fix any problems, but I often dial in melodies using specific notes(numbers) from a scale I've memorized. Not sure if this is a Hive problem or if Live is a bit too enthusiastic in skipping to the next value of a given parameter.

[Nutrinoland]

How to send Program change messages to Hive from Ableton ?
Something to do with the Midi Programs in the preset window ?

[Chapelle]

How to send Program change messages to Hive from Ableton ?
Something to do with the Midi Programs in the preset window ?

From the manual:

MIDI Programs

Local also contains a folder called MIDI Programs which is initially empty. If you put a bunch of presets (up to 128) in there, they will all be loaded into memory when the very first instance of Hive starts, and presets can be selected via MIDI ‘Program Change’ messages.

As these presets are accessed in alphabetical order, it’s a good idea to plan ahead and begin each name with a 3-digit number: ‘000 rest-of-name’ to ‘127 rest-of-name’.

Important: Unlike regular presets, MIDI Programs cannot be added, removed or renamed on the fly. Changes will only take effect after the host software is restarted!

Banks: The MIDI Programs folder can contain up to 127 sub-folders of 128 presets each, and these are switchable via MIDI ‘Bank Select’ messages (the MIDI Programs root folder is bank 0). The bank select message is CC#0. Send a Bank Select message first, then a Program Change message.

[Nutrinoland]

Awesome thanks !!
Did not realize that the Manual has been released.

[hakey]

I've experienced a number of crashes that cause my soundcard to completely freeze up.

For example, this patch - freeze - crashes if I play high chords. Does the same happen for anyone else?

[tedlogan]

Another minor thing:

You cannot map the FX modules' on/off switches to use with controllers. Simple workaround is turning all FX on for all patches and save them in this state, and then leaving the wetness for the desired ones at zero for tweaking later. Dry/Wet is then mapped instead to a controller bank, acting as both on/off switches and amount/wet.

The only FX module that still alters the sound at zero wetness is Chorus unfortunately - it still adds a slight stereo effect as well as lowering the overall patch volume. Is it possible to change it so that Chorus' "Wet" parameter has zero affect on the sound if at zero?

All in all, everytime I come back to Hive from taking a break from other synths, the sound delights. I want to take a bite out of it - so lush and satisfying. Also, great enjoyment using it neatly mapped for Push - I cannot recommend it enough.