2CAudio Kaleidoscope | It's A Trip | Latest Update 1.1

[Andrew Souter]

here's something real-world-ish:

https://soundcloud.com/2caudio/ks-battl ... w-souter-1

i just made it completely in the past couple hours, so consider it more a sketch than a finished commercial product... but some cool stuff nonetheless for anyone wanting to hear non-ambient/experimental examples...

now some sleep I guess.

This sounds great! What are we listening to though? How many different layers of KS are involved? And what non-KS sounds are we hearing?

Many KS Layers. Several B2s.

The only thing that is not originally some combination of KS and B2 is a simple sustained baseline from Diva shown below and the drums. But the Baseline from Diva is actually processed by KS also in the mix using a "dynamic filtering" preset.

Bass Dry: http://www.2caudio.com/sitecontent/prod ... a_Bass.wav

This was the sound that started the composition:

http://www.2caudio.com/sitecontent/prod ... h_A_01.wav

Then I took the same preset (which used a choral tuning that was effectively giving harmonics of a A Lydian chord) and created a variation that used a pure harmonics tuning so that it was only one "note" from the musical perspective. I transposed this down a few octaves to make a bass sound that followed the same rhythm. I Rendered it at different pitches: A, E, C#, F#. I then assemble this into a basic chord/bass progression: A, E, C#, C#, A, E, C#, C#, A, E, F#, F#

The mid/high voice thing has EQ automation and automation into B2s, and another KS.

The bass thing also has EQ automation. And when the drums come in it goes into Izotope Trash to get a more aggressive sound. So the thing that sounds like aggressive GTRs is KS->Trash...

The Diva Bass follows the same progression with some extra transition notes. But it is processed with KS to make it less common.

Some additional KS layers provide drone support, and textural generative things, and some granular delay stuff...

Everything else except the drums is some variations of these ingredients going into another KS and/or B2 instance... and sometimes Trash.

[TwoToneshuzz]

Answering the call from the Boss for more usage examples from Kaleido

I spent som time processing(awkwarding) a track I'm working on with Serum by Xfer Records and the Tabula Rasa soundest, a whole mix is sent into Kaleidoscope where I used Simons preset called Harmonic Cloud making three passes at different base note octaves and crossfaded between the resulting files in Logic X. Added some snaredrum on the final pass using a Kaleidoscope Factory patch "Unmet Expectations", From the Atonal Rhythmic subset to kolor it.


https://soundcloud.com/twotoneshuzz/calltokaleido

I know there are some clicks in this file, and I'm finding just these issues are hard to define what is causing it; the feedback amount, the octave setting that doesn't sit well with the partials, or the duplicates setting... Trying to mitigate it with the high cut filter just changes the sound too much.. This issue is not caused by CPU overloads which result in something that is similar to clipping combined with drop outs..


I'm feverishly trying to work on eliminating these in post processing with RX4 (demo) but no luck, I have a demo of Acon Digitals Digital restoration suite, and it actually is doing a superior job to RX4 to getting rid of these small nuisance clicks with no general sound quality penalty!,, very tempted to pick this up at JRR shop for 84 bucks..... I was thinking of getting RX4 but if it can't handle what I want it to do, why spend nearly 3X the amount? Maybe there are tools in RX 4 advanced that can do this job better but it's not likely I'll be spending the money on the upgrade before like years!

I don't want to have to always throw stuff out because of these beginners problems, so before I lose my mind I really just want a remedial noise reduction tool on board and it can't go fast enough!

Any opinions would be appreciated before I go and buy yet another piece of gear, which I love too do!! So no ranting here it's just well you know!

[Sampleconstruct]

Since RX1 I haven't encountered a click or crackle which couldn't be eliminated with this tool, so adjust your settings, only select the frequency region where the click(s) occur(s) - (think Iris) and try again.

[TwoToneshuzz]

Since RX1 I haven't encountered a click or crackle which couldn't be eliminated with this tool, so adjust your settings, only select the frequency region where the click(s) occur(s) - (think Iris) and try again.

Okay thanks Simon, I'll give it another go with RX 4 and wait on the Acon digital repair suite, as although Acon could deal with these issues much better just now, it's a generally a much more limited tool than RX4 that's easy to see!

[Sampleconstruct]

Since RX1 I haven't encountered a click or crackle which couldn't be eliminated with this tool, so adjust your settings, only select the frequency region where the click(s) occur(s) - (think Iris) and try again.

Okay thanks Simon, I'll give it another go with RX 4 and wait on the Acon digital repair suite, as although Acon could deal with these issues much better just now, it's a generally a much more limited tool than RX4 that's easy to see!

Calm down, don't wast your money, relax, breathe in and out...

[Sampleconstruct]

Check it out:

[TwoToneshuzz]

Since RX1 I haven't encountered a click or crackle which couldn't be eliminated with this tool, so adjust your settings, only select the frequency region where the click(s) occur(s) - (think Iris) and try again.

Okay thanks Simon, I'll give it another go with RX 4 and wait on the Acon digital repair suite, as although Acon could deal with these issues much better just now, it's a generally a much more limited tool than RX4 that's easy to see!

Calm down, don't wast your money, relax, breathe in and out...

Breath, in out, in out, relax the lockjaw the white knuckles on the mouse. Hey it's already working! I'm trying to track down the issue at the source always the best way one can deal with these issues..

[Sampleconstruct]

Since RX1 I haven't encountered a click or crackle which couldn't be eliminated with this tool, so adjust your settings, only select the frequency region where the click(s) occur(s) - (think Iris) and try again.

Okay thanks Simon, I'll give it another go with RX 4 and wait on the Acon digital repair suite, as although Acon could deal with these issues much better just now, it's a generally a much more limited tool than RX4 that's easy to see!

Calm down, don't wast your money, relax, breathe in and out...

Also note, that sometimes what you would define as a click, RX4 will define as a crackle, so that might be the issue with your experience. And Spectral Repair -> "replace"/"attenuate" sometimes works better than declick/decrackle - and the settings in the Spectral Repair section are highly adjustable (and should be adjusted depending to the source material for best results). If you're trying to eliminate distortion, go to the de-clip section instead.

[Noise forFiction]

Sample construct this is a bit off topic but you have great videos,can you tell what program you use to make them? I can record screen with quicktime but there is no app sound then.

[Krakatau]

i assume this one : http://www.shinywhitebox.com/ishowu-hd-pro

[S1gnsOfL1fe]

Just checking in here...finally had the opportunity to demo this today. Highly impressed! Looking forward to catch with this thread and pick up a couple of things.

[Sampleconstruct]

Sample construct this is a bit off topic but you have great videos,can you tell what program you use to make them? I can record screen with quicktime but there is no app sound then.

Camtasia on Mavericks and ishowU HD Pro on Snow Leopard (which is broken since Mavericks audiowise, so I got Camtaisa instead) - ishowU HD Pro has better options to record any audio channels from your audio interface (RMEs in my case), but Camtasia captures system audio which also works fine and it has some basic video editing features.

[TwoToneshuzz]

New Track, it's all about getting to know Kaleidoscope.

I've used kaleidoscope on some dialog from a 1940's film, a jaw harp solo at a community dance, A Cello from Halion 5 and a sound from the Spectral Rays soundest for LinPlugs Spectral Synth. I have used NI's Molecular with a Patchpool DNA preset on the Kaleidoscope effect jaw harp solo. Some mastering 2CAudio B2 reverb..

All Kaleidoscope effects are found in the Factory Library.

https://soundcloud.com/twotoneshuzz/whi ... ercurrents

[TwoToneshuzz]

New track using mostly the previous tracks source material but with different Kaleidoscope effects and I sent both the Kaleidoscope effect and the dry dialog into a Native instruments Molekular DNA preset. So there are actually four variations of the dialog, dry, Kaleido effected, Molekular effect on the Dry dialog and finally the Molecular Effect on the Kaleidoscope effected dialog.

Additional I used a Trash 2 on the Kaleidoscope effected Jaw harp solo..The Jaw harp at no point is heard dry, which is maybe a bit of a shame, another missed opportunity!

I discovered the Static effects in the Kaleidoscope Factory Library which I used on the Cello it gave the Harmonic Halo effect that I remember from early Sci Fi films...

https://soundcloud.com/twotoneshuzz/surrealscapekaleido


I'm discovering that Kaleidoscope has very wide applications .

I'm sure with the right image maps and tunings/times etc. it could replace just about every effect known to man or beast!

[jtenney]

Twotoneshuzz, I'm enjoying your contributions a LOT!! I think you are helping to prove that KS is a very broad application, with almost unlimited uses!