KVR Audio

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:31 pm

Compyfox wrote:So skeptical thinking and questioning is once more not allowed on KVR Audio - only blind praise. Should have figured as much.

I am sorry that I stepped on the toes of the "fans".
Looks like this plugin/instrument is not for me after all.

How embarrassing can it get?

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:31 pm

Compyfox wrote:I am sorry that I stepped on the toes of the "fans".

All wrong. Not a fan. Just a guy checking out this thread because I'm warming up to this plug. I'm actually going to demo it today and judging by my past history will probably buy it. It's your depressing "prenup" overtones that are depressing me in this thread. I respect you because you're a long time veteran here, but OMG! So no. I'm not a fonboi ganging up on you. I'm just a guy feeling like I want to jump off a cliff after reading such doom and gloom posts when they're really not warranted. Forgive me if I've insulted you.

.-.

dsan@mail.com · Post by **dsan@mail.com** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:49 pm

Critical thinking people.

We all do it, at one time or another.

It's the reason for this forum. To voice opinion and to share information.

If one person's opinion doesn't agree with yours that is fine; however, we all have that right to voice our opinion and share information when needed. No need to jump off cliffs or deep ends or what have you. Save yourself.

The above is just one person's opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of this network. You may return now to your normal lives.

Happy Musiking!
dsan

- Be happy!

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:13 pm

aMUSEd wrote:I notice it has force to scale, what scales does it support?

Just had a look for you.
major, minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor, diatonic, pentatonic major, pentatonic minor, ioanian ,aeolian, mixolydian, dorian, phrygian, phrygian dominant, lydian, locrian, spanish gypsy, persian
blues. All the modes then and a few exotic scales.

The user may create custom scales although it appears that currently there is no way to both create and name a user defined scale for recall although a singular custom scale saves with the project. Would be nice though to see some kind of file menu for it so users can easily add their own named custom scales.

For regular force to scale NoraHarm can be called to duty which has loads of chords and scales all of which can be stored/saved and again has options for user defined stuff. As well 1 finger chord triggering.

The new feature it would appear doesn't work in the regular way a force to scale seems to, more like a utility to alter/force certain notes of a chord in a changing Arp line. I still don't fully understand it but plan to dedicate some time soon.

When used in conjunction with the Nora randomizer it produces quite unexpected but good results.

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:21 pm

Is there a video showing the randomizer in action?

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:28 pm

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:45 pm

That was great, thanks. Can you copy bars and paste to DAW piano roll?

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:09 pm

Musical Gym wrote:That was great, thanks. Can you copy bars and paste to DAW piano roll?

Possibly a better option is to feed all of Nora's output to another midi channel, any changes you make will be recorded into that midi channel in realtime which then allows regular edits via your own Daw Piano roll.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:21 pm

Musical Gym wrote:That was great, thanks. Can you copy bars and paste to DAW piano roll?

and copy and paste midi notes from DAW to Nora.

Also: What is lost by running Nora inside Bidule as a VSTi in a DAW? I can route the midi in unmentionable ways.

magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:26 pm

squaredheads wrote:I mean this one

Just toggle it and change to static mode. If you hover your mouse you will see a tooltip. Also you can use the Inline help for detailed information Help->Inline Help.

the static mode when notes are tie, do not produce this short note ons. but on static mode all note ons are play until note in arp window end. and when press a key during a note is play no note on is produce

to bring more rythm variation it is possible to do short chords play rythmic for example. notes in midi DAW
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now play in next bar
---- --------
---- --------

this sound with Free run and static diffrent. long notes sound diffrent when DAW is stop both modes sound diffrent. only when i disable the clock(i write in before post) is same as with DAW stop.

The inline help do not work on my system, when i have Track 1 Configuration Window active. I verify, it is a Mux Modular Problem. only on first open of window work. when i click 1 time in Track 1 Configuration window, then inline help do not work. I can do a video, if you want see. not important Problem. use Nora direct in DAW work. But cheap Cubase 7 LE or elements does not allow choose of Nora in another track. so can only work with MUX or other vst rack

kyodeejay · Post by **kyodeejay** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:35 pm

Musical Gym wrote:Is there a video showing the randomizer in action?

kyodeejay · Post by **kyodeejay** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:37 pm

This guy has a big and interesting presets library!

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:42 pm

@kalamata & kyodeejay: thanks

kurodo · Post by **kurodo** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:00 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:
and copy and paste midi notes from DAW to Nora.

I don't think there's a way to directly copy notes/rhythms from the Daw to Nora, we can import a midi but that currently only imports the timing (not the note pitches) and is used more for quantizing/groove templates. This is the very strange thing about Nora sometimes its easy to forget that its an Arp. A very good one mind

Now that Nora supports up to 7 grid notes it is looking and operating like a secondary Piano roll (not that I think SquaredHeads really intended it for that use- but its a bonus) but I think what would really make a huge difference would be midi import along with its velocity.
So for example lets say you come across a really good midi file that has a Arp/Phrase section you like, you could borrow its DNA but use your own chords, scales and notes. Preset building would be a dream then.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:00 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:because they add features too fast for your delicate sensibilities? dear f**king christ.

As usual, you only do selective reading and ignore the whole point of my comment, before you turn things around and then put the person and comments in question in the pillory. Also nothing new for you is going into swearing mode real quick.

My concern is not "mainly" the fast development. My concern is also where this route is going in terms of financial aspects considering the really fast updates. SquareHeads is a new company, so they can only learn from mistakes of other companies. But there is a trend as of late with both big and small players on the market to push out "updates" within a very short period of time (between 5 and 10 months), sometimes only with minor changes or maintenance updates, and asking for upgrade prices between 50% to 75% for it without even exhausting resources first.

People objectively criticize that on both KVR and GS - and it's okay to do so. I talk about it, and suddenly it's not. Nothing new on KVR - it's just "grumpy old Mister Fox doing his usual thing".

Orbit-50 wrote:I'm just a guy feeling like I want to jump off a cliff after reading such doom and gloom posts when they're really not warranted. Forgive me if I've insulted you.

It was not a doom/gloom scenario, it was a legit asked question/concern, considering to what is currently happening in the software industry. Also while keeping in mind that the developers are new around the block. Software is just too fast living these days, and money doesn't grow on trees.

Sampleconstruct wrote:How embarrassing can it get?

Depends on the responses, and how long people drag this out.

A sh*tstorm is just more fun to drag out and dissect instead of discussing things objectively.

dsan@mail.com wrote:The above is just one person's opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of this network. You may return now to your normal lives.

Happy Musiking!

Finally somebody that doesn't constantly take things down the wrong pipe.

Happy Musiking indeed.

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