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Nutrinoland · Post by **Nutrinoland** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:41 pm

A Picture of Sylenth Crying..

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:59 pm

How about an FX step sequencer along the lines of Effectrix or Glitch? Should be pretty easy to implement (spoken as a non-coder) and would make Hive appeal to the wub wub wobble wobble crowd!

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:03 pm

ariston wrote:How about an FX step sequencer along the lines of Effectrix or Glitch? Should be pretty easy to implement (spoken as a non-coder) and would make Hive appeal to the wub wub wobble wobble crowd!

That sounds like something they try to fit into the Arp+Step, rather than a whole new hexagon.

What I enjoy about about Spire is that it's all nested, so it can have it's small size, but no lack on features. Hive is trying to keep everything on literally just a single screen, and I understand that...but there's eventually a lack of space, and in fairness, it's already nested to a degree by having three hexagons in the first place.

Personally, I don't see any problem in going further with that. It doesn't slow my usage of Spire at all having to click tabs. As long as it's arranged creatively, like Zebra Redux for instance, there shouldn't be a problem.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:14 pm

Shiek927 wrote:
ariston wrote:How about an FX step sequencer along the lines of Effectrix or Glitch? Should be pretty easy to implement (spoken as a non-coder) and would make Hive appeal to the wub wub wobble wobble crowd!
That sounds like something they try to fit into the Arp+Step, rather than a whole new hexagon.

No way, not enough room.

garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:25 pm

Erwin78 wrote:Make it a preset section.
Like the FX presets but more.
Preset for the osc.
Preset for the filters.
Preset for the ENV & LFO
Preset for MM1
Preset for MM2

Random preset button for all sections.

+1

I also suggested this, but you put it so much better.

Chapelle · Post by **Chapelle** » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:27 pm

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:04 am

ariston wrote:
Shiek927 wrote:
ariston wrote:How about an FX step sequencer along the lines of Effectrix or Glitch? Should be pretty easy to implement (spoken as a non-coder) and would make Hive appeal to the wub wub wobble wobble crowd!
That sounds like something they try to fit into the Arp+Step, rather than a whole new hexagon.
No way, not enough room.

It can, with nesting.

That was my point with my previous point: with creativity, there can be additional tabs to fit in new features. Zebra is chock full of them.

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:29 am

There's already a step sequencer to control FX or anything in the form of the CC (map Seq CC control to FX parameters via mod matrix) and Velocity lanes (if you have velocity affecting an FX parameter). Another CC lane would be very cool though. Move the Dynamic Velocity and Seq Preset buttons to a drop-down menu which would make room for one more CC lane (8 steps x 2 space-wise). And remove the step labeling of 1 - 16 to add another lane.

My vote for the hexagon:

a picture of a small squirrel eating waffles with syrup.

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:41 am

aMUSEd wrote:
zvenx wrote:But for those of us who expressly bought a keyboard that allows AT, Breath and Expression, this is wasted for us.....
I definitely think it makes more sense to put something that can benefit everyone.
rsp
Yes, if you want to add controls for these then add an extra assignable wheel next to the keyboard.

Yes, that could be enough and still the guys without a good controller keyboard
could also try those stuff one by one.

But if the horizontal stripe above the keyboard would only lit when programmed to do something in a patch, would work
as an indicator to TOUCH ME i am here.

I guess Howard want to adress the "beginners" with those easy access for soft controllers.

By the way i was in a music store lately and deeply surprised by the terrible quality of those
little controller keyboards they are selling.

I was thinking to buy one if i am travelling.
No way. Even some recognisable named companies producing controllers like they are already
broken and want to fall apart.
By looking at the pictures they looks like ok to play with, just don't touch them

hollo · Post by **hollo** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:43 am

double post

garryknight · Post by **garryknight** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:59 am

How about tutorials for those new to synth programming? Six icons that, when clicked, lead to articles with videos on different topics:

1. Oscillators
2. Filters
3. Envelopes
4. LFOs
5. Routing
6. Linking modulation sources and targets

Hive is a great synth that's fairly easy to program but currently short on tutorials compared to certain other synths. It would be nice to see more people learning the magic and creating new sounds for everyone.

fusionid · Post by **fusionid** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:35 am

I vote for putting a bee Tamagotchi in there

I am actually serious

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:19 am

tedlogan wrote:There's already a step sequencer to control FX or anything in the form of the CC (map Seq CC control to FX parameters via mod matrix) and Velocity lanes (if you have velocity affecting an FX parameter).

First: not the same at all (to begin with, you'd need 10 of these). Second: too complicated to set up. That's the beauty of something like Effectrix - simplicity and instant gratification. Kinda like what Hive stands for. A grid makes this easy, and yes, you would need the entire hexagon for that. No "nesting" and for Pete's sake no more drop-down menus or dragable numbers.

spunkmuffin · Post by **spunkmuffin** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:25 am

Urs I'd like a Cryogenic Timewarp Transform Pod (CTTP) where I can be frozen and revived young and beautiful 100 years from now. Thanks

tedlogan · Post by **tedlogan** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:24 am

ariston wrote:
tedlogan wrote:There's already a step sequencer to control FX or anything in the form of the CC (map Seq CC control to FX parameters via mod matrix) and Velocity lanes (if you have velocity affecting an FX parameter).
First: not the same at all (to begin with, you'd need 10 of these). Second: too complicated to set up. That's the beauty of something like Effectrix - simplicity and instant gratification. Kinda like what Hive stands for. A grid makes this easy, and yes, you would need the entire hexagon for that. No "nesting" and for Pete's sake no more drop-down menus or dragable numbers.

Yes, the CC lane is only one lane, so you'd have to mix all your FX steps being modulated in this single channel, or use only one FX parameter.

But it's extremely easy to set up though. Since I don't have a breath controller and probably won't for a long time, I have my defaut mod patch saved - Breath as Source in the matrix , and Breath being the Seq CC controller.

Now it's simply a case of drag n drop selecting any parameters for Depth 1 and 2 to step modulate. A controller is recommended to edit the values of the steps though. I use Push for this. I imagine something like Beatstep would be great for this as well.

On the one hand I like your idea, but on the other I don't want too many options in Hive - the limits boost my creativity massively I've found - patches are bursting forth by the second, whereas with Zebra and Bazille they flow gently.

But, if the third hexagon is filled with 10 quick-setup mod lanes, I wouldn't complain

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