KVR Audio

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:25 pm

thetechnobear wrote:no mac version = no love

I do love (software) modular synths, Ive got Reaktor, Oscillot (M4L), Max with Beap... and then semi modulars from u-he like Zebra/Bazille/Ace...
what would Mux add? and how does it sound?
there seems little on the website about what modules it contains, how it differs from others...

( i know it can hosts vsts and front end them, but Im not really interested in that... Id tend to use Max if I need that)

oh well, I guess when/if a mac version arrives I'll take a look then.

You can try out the whole of MuX if you get the MuLab for Mac demo - only it'll be inside MuLab. The difference is that MuLab is a DAW wrapped around MuX, rather than a standalone MuX instance, basically.

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:04 pm

the new osc with grain and Wt are really good, same for the sampler, if some audio rate possibility arrive, in an update, with some new filters, it s an instant buy, for sure, it s a great tool!

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:04 pm

I didn't realize how much input AAS has had in Live, basically it seems like many of the synhts in Live are variations of AAS lineup:

Analog - Ultra Analog
Collision - Chromaphone
Electric - Lounge Lizard
Tension - String Studio

So is Max 4 Live a variation of Tassman?

dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:36 am

Nope

Max for Live is a full version of Max:
https://cycling74.com/
with a few changes/tweaks/extras for compatibility with Live
so it works as an extension of Live's functionality
or to extend Live's functionality
its stupid what you can do with it
i've done complete audio/visual/kinetic performances/installations
with just Max and all sorts of scrapheap physical/MIDI interfaces
it isn't diminished in M4L
so you can really tailor Live to what you want
i recently rebought Tassman and it seemed very small...

dave

dave

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:43 am

Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize how much input AAS has had in Live, basically it seems like many of the synhts in Live are variations of AAS lineup:

Analog - Ultra Analog
Collision - Chromaphone
Electric - Lounge Lizard
Tension - String Studio

So is Max 4 Live a variation of Tassman?

Yes. Despite the fact that Max is modular software tool capable of processing audio, Max for Live is actually a modular software tool capable of processing audio by a completely different company, and is not actually a version of 'Max' specifically for Live, its just a version of Tassman called 'Max for Live'. Also, the makers of Max were okay with that confusion.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:26 pm

dave dove wrote:with just Max and all sorts of scrapheap physical/MIDI interfaces

Looking at the Cycling74 webpage, it seems though that a shiny high end Mac needs to be at the core of it all.

dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:52 pm

well you could use a shitty old PC
but i suspect it wouldn't look so middle class creative cool on the ad
still...

dave

JoeCat · Post by **JoeCat** » Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:38 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I didn't realize how much input AAS has had in Live, basically it seems like many of the synhts in Live are variations of AAS lineup:

Analog - Ultra Analog
Collision - Chromaphone
Electric - Lounge Lizard
Tension - String Studio

So is Max 4 Live a variation of Tassman?
Yes. Despite the fact that Max is modular software tool capable of processing audio, Max for Live is actually a modular software tool capable of processing audio by a completely different company, and is not actually a version of 'Max' specifically for Live, its just a version of Tassman called 'Max for Live'. Also, the makers of Max were okay with that confusion.

HA! It took 2 read-throughs before I caught the deadpan sarcasm

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon May 09, 2016 4:32 pm

...and v7 slips out with little or no fanfare

Taifunk · Post by **Taifunk** » Mon May 09, 2016 5:51 pm

Numanoid wrote:Anybody have upgraded and can share their insight if it is worth it or not?

Updated immediately,absolutely worth it!

The new version supports audio rate modulations and allows FM/AM/PM ..
There are many improvements,new function and also new modules including a powerful step sequencer.
Whith Mux the only limit is the creativity,an excellent upgrade and sound great

It is currently in pre-release and there's also an intro price for the update

http://www.mutools.com/shop.html

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon May 09, 2016 6:11 pm

Well it would help if existing users were notified

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon May 09, 2016 6:13 pm

Glad I had backed up my MUX 6 installer, don't find them available for download on the website anymore?

ZeePok · Post by **ZeePok** » Mon May 09, 2016 7:47 pm

Numanoid wrote:Glad I had backed up my MUX 6 installer, don't find them available for download on the website anymore?

http://www.mutools.com/mux/legacy-versions/

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon May 09, 2016 7:58 pm

Great

I was afraid MuLab had become like discodsp

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Mon May 09, 2016 8:13 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Well it would help if existing users were notified

Well, I also only found it via the side pannel on KVR. But it's actually still considered "Beta" (even though it is mostly stable), which is why it wasn't hyped so far.

Numanoid wrote:Glad I had backed up my MUX 6 installer, don't find them available for download on the website anymore?

You can always ask Jo where to find an old copy. And I do remember that there has been links to a "beta" server in the MuTools Forum section on KVR.

Else - I'm on MUX7 already, and I frigging love it! So many (small) cool new features (I personally really dig the new Waveform View).

And... it's finally working in Wavelab (up until v9.x). Granted, with a small, unexpected workaround - but it does work. To those that had issues with WL7 or WL8 before... load the plugin into any insert slot... then render with a basic "MUX preset" (only MUX modules must be used). If the host doesn't hang, but renders, you can easily load your own presets and continue working.

I created custom saturation modules the other day, implemented the waveform view on the main GUI, used the multi-parameter macros without scratching my head, built a quick custom UI...

IMO one of the best add-ons you can have for any non-modular hosts.

No love for MUX Modular 7 ?