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Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:40 pm

so it's been two years since Live 9 came out. I know if I upgrade now, Live 10 will be announced the following day ( knowing my luck

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Anyone /alpha/beta testing this yet ?
I haven't been keeping tabs on the Ableton website, so if anyone knows some of the things we can likely expect in Live 10 it would be great to hear about it.

things i'd like to see:
sandboxing plugins, a-la bitwig.

built in bit-bridge (though perhaps that plays into the sandboxing feature above)

latency/buffer corrected automation (...or just a complete and as close to flawless as possible implementation of PDC)

highest quality pitch-shift/time-stretch algos

native lfo/modulation devices (that can also send midi)... (the m4l solutions - while welcome - are resource pigs)

native patch/state/preset morphing

I'll add more as I think of them.

What features are you hoping for ? Both likely and unlikely...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:43 pm

Latency/buffer corrected automation is already in the latest betas.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:47 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Latency/buffer corrected automation is already in the latest betas.

Sweet! And there's no caveats that you know of ?

Knober · Post by **Knober** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:52 pm

the ability of preview loops bpm and tempo synced with the playback like studio one will be cool

also offline rendering

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:58 pm

Daags wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Latency/buffer corrected automation is already in the latest betas.
Sweet! And there's no caveats that you know of ?

Well it's still in beta so a work-in-progress, not sure what, if anything, will still be missing when it's ready for release but at least they are trying to address it finally and not even in a paid for update.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:03 pm

Knober wrote:the ability of preview loops bpm and tempo synced with the playback like studio one will be cool

ng

Live 9 already does that

Deep Purple · Post by **Deep Purple** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:08 pm

I doubt it's soon as 9.2 hasn't been release yet and is in beta.

mcnelson · Post by **mcnelson** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:19 pm

Plus, it was 4 years between Live 8 and Live 9. We're only two years into Live 9, the next version is easily another year away, IMHO.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:42 pm

Deep Purple wrote:I doubt it's soon as 9.2 hasn't been release yet and is in beta.

This.

At least wait for 9.5 before worrying about version 10.... But as mentioned, 9.2 hasn't officially been released, so you can feel safe about buying into Live now.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:50 pm

mcnelson wrote:Plus, it was 4 years between Live 8 and Live 9. We're only two years into Live 9, the next version is easily another year away, IMHO.

I think that was because their contrived yearly upgrade cycle finally caught up with them, 'jumped the shark' and Live 8 was the worst example of a fubar release. As every (yearly) release since 5 was getting progressively worse and worse (as in released too soon to paying customers) and it just came to a head with 8. So I feel the transition time from 8 - 9 won't be repeated... I'd expect a Live 10 announcement by Autumn at the latest, and a release by early 2016 at the latest. imo. ymmv.

One thing I do feel will be repeated though, is the gap between announcement and release... which was approx. 4 months for Live 9.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:51 pm

elxsound wrote:
Deep Purple wrote:I doubt it's soon as 9.2 hasn't been release yet and is in beta.
This.

At least wait for 9.5 before worrying about version 10.... But as mentioned, 9.2 hasn't officially been released, so you can feel safe about buying into Live now.

hmmmm

I'll evaluate the situation when the next sale happens, summer maybe ?
can upgrades (From 8 to 9) be sold on the used market ?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:19 pm

Daags wrote:I'll evaluate the situation when the next sale happens, summer maybe ?
can upgrades (From 8 to 9) be sold on the used market ?

If you upgrade its tied to your license so you can't re-sell the upgrade.

Knober · Post by **Knober** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:45 pm

tehlord wrote:
Knober wrote:the ability of preview loops bpm and tempo synced with the playback like studio one will be cool
Live 9 already does that

thanks new feature discovered, but the realtime pitching and streching is just bad

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:22 pm

Read the reklease notes for the latest betas and check what they are working on.

I think they are trying to iron out some quirks, live 8 got till 8.3 before live 9 was announced so I would expect that we wont see Live 10 this year.

Anyway just get it in the market place here, suite goes around 400 and standard for 200.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:23 pm

I have 8 suite + m4l ... would like a good deal on upgrading to 9 suite...

Ableton Live 10...