Hive preview (April 1 update)

[Fleer]

Massive has alot more functions than this synth yet smarter design.

I disagree. That extra of functionality is paid for by a lot more tabbing, and thus a much slower workflow

Completely right. Hive should combine the power of Massive with a great workflow.

[Shiek927]

Massive has alot more functions than this synth yet smarter design.

I disagree. That extra of functionality is paid for by a lot more tabbing, and thus a much slower workflow

Completely right. Hive should combine the power of Massive with a great workflow.

Massive is a horrifying dated Wavetable synth with terrible filters ;___;. Wavetables is something I definitely I don't want to see in Hive at all.

The thing is, Hive's UI is something people will never be completely happy with. Right now, people say it's too big when it should be nested. So it's done - now people say that it has too many tabs and the workflow is slow and it should be more like Sylenth. If it remains the same and there are more features on the single-screen, then people will say that it's too cluttered.

I feel people will continue to find something to nitpick about Hive's appearance no matter what it ends up looking like.

Personally, if there is some nesting then I wouldn't mind. Spire has a small wonderful UI with arrows that lead from the OSC to the Filters to the FX. There is plenty of tabs, but I doesn't get in my way at all perhaps because of it's smaller size. Zebra2 on the other hand has too much nesting and I don't enjoy so much perhaps because it's so big. Zebra Redux is what I prefer because it decreases the amount of tabs and puts the Mod-Matrix, XY pads and MSEG's right on the front. The other tabs are simply if you want a bigger space for them.

If Hive were as small as Spire it would be a different story. Given the sheer size of Hive, I feel it should follow the same approach and limit the amount of tabs as much as possible. It's simply too big to allow for too many tabs or it'll go down the same road as Zebra2. Zebra2 isn't 'bad', but it truly was slowing me down and I never realized until I tried Zebra Redux.

As for the brightness...ehh, this is something I u-he shouldn't lose *too* much sleep over. Again, I think this could be something that people complain about now matter how it looks like. Yes, I immediately turned it to "brighter" the first chance I had, but it's by no means any sort of deal-breaker at all. I'd rather the focus be on new features as opposed to the UI too much.

[sqigls]

Hey i could never get my survey coupon to work!
Is there any chance of using it now!?
Thank you
Simon

[takaii]

Massive has alot more functions than this synth yet smarter design.

I disagree. That extra of functionality is paid for by a lot more tabbing, and thus a much slower workflow

Completely right. Hive should combine the power of Massive with a great workflow.

Massive is a horrifying dated Wavetable synth with terrible filters ;___;. Wavetables is something I definitely I don't want to see in Hive at all.

The thing is, Hive's UI is something people will never be completely happy with. Right now, people say it's too big when it should be nested. So it's done - now people say that it has too many tabs and the workflow is slow and it should be more like Sylenth. If it remains the same and there are more features on the single-screen, then people will say that it's too cluttered.

I feel people will continue to find something to nitpick about Hive's appearance no matter what it ends up looking like.

Personally, if there is some nesting then I wouldn't mind. Spire has a small wonderful UI with arrows that lead from the OSC to the Filters to the FX. There is plenty of tabs, but I doesn't get in my way at all perhaps because of it's smaller size. Zebra2 on the other hand has too much nesting and I don't enjoy so much perhaps because it's so big. Zebra Redux is what I prefer because it decreases the amount of tabs and puts the Mod-Matrix, XY pads and MSEG's right on the front. The other tabs are simply if you want a bigger space for them.

If Hive were as small as Spire it would be a different story. Given the sheer size of Hive, I feel it should follow the same approach and limit the amount of tabs as much as possible. It's simply too big to allow for too many tabs or it'll go down the same road as Zebra2. Zebra2 isn't 'bad', but it truly was slowing me down and I never realized until I tried Zebra Redux.

As for the brightness...ehh, this is something I u-he shouldn't lose *too* much sleep over. Again, I think this could be something that people complain about now matter how it looks like. Yes, I immediately turned it to "brighter" the first chance I had, but it's by no means any sort of deal-breaker at all. I'd rather the focus be on new features as opposed to the UI too much.

First massive is not outdated. Thats why alot of talented produces keep making quality music with just massive. Well its more about the user then the plugin. I just feel hive has to much deadspace. Think being on a small laptop. you would have to resize the screen and it would become massive just to see the text easy without any concentration...

[Shiek927]

Massive has alot more functions than this synth yet smarter design.

I disagree. That extra of functionality is paid for by a lot more tabbing, and thus a much slower workflow

Completely right. Hive should combine the power of Massive with a great workflow.

Massive is a horrifying dated Wavetable synth with terrible filters ;___;. Wavetables is something I definitely I don't want to see in Hive at all.

The thing is, Hive's UI is something people will never be completely happy with. Right now, people say it's too big when it should be nested. So it's done - now people say that it has too many tabs and the workflow is slow and it should be more like Sylenth. If it remains the same and there are more features on the single-screen, then people will say that it's too cluttered.

I feel people will continue to find something to nitpick about Hive's appearance no matter what it ends up looking like.

Personally, if there is some nesting then I wouldn't mind. Spire has a small wonderful UI with arrows that lead from the OSC to the Filters to the FX. There is plenty of tabs, but I doesn't get in my way at all perhaps because of it's smaller size. Zebra2 on the other hand has too much nesting and I don't enjoy so much perhaps because it's so big. Zebra Redux is what I prefer because it decreases the amount of tabs and puts the Mod-Matrix, XY pads and MSEG's right on the front. The other tabs are simply if you want a bigger space for them.

If Hive were as small as Spire it would be a different story. Given the sheer size of Hive, I feel it should follow the same approach and limit the amount of tabs as much as possible. It's simply too big to allow for too many tabs or it'll go down the same road as Zebra2. Zebra2 isn't 'bad', but it truly was slowing me down and I never realized until I tried Zebra Redux.

As for the brightness...ehh, this is something I u-he shouldn't lose *too* much sleep over. Again, I think this could be something that people complain about now matter how it looks like. Yes, I immediately turned it to "brighter" the first chance I had, but it's by no means any sort of deal-breaker at all. I'd rather the focus be on new features as opposed to the UI too much.

First massive is not outdated. Thats why alot of talented produces keep making quality music with just massive. Well its more about the user then the plugin. I just feel hive has to much deadspace. Think being on a small laptop. you would have to resize the screen and it would become massive just to see the text easy without any concentration...

I had a feeling I might push somebody's buttons with that one :p. I meant no offense - I just always felt Massive was pretty overrated. Even when it was newer, it felt like Zebra2 was like what Massive was *trying* to be.

And now, we're in an era of zero-delay-feedback filters which takes things to the next level. I can't predict the future, but I wouldn't be surprised to eventually see them becoming de-facto until all software synths have there own.

But getting to the UI, all that space could make room for new features like Urs said, and there are many requests including my own .

[Fleer]

Hey i could never get my survey coupon to work!
Is there any chance of using it now!?
Thank you
Simon

I'm afraid you're too late. I raised the same question a month ago but got no for an answer.

[JurijPopotnig]

Hi,
I guess it's too late for suggestions but what about a ramdomization button. I find this things really cool, you get quick crazy results out of them.

[ksandvik]

There's a randomization preset for U-HE SW synths, most likely that will work with Hive as well (have not tested it yet myself.)

[SoundGoddess]

More visual feedback might happen, but we need to stay considerate with the CPU usage of UI drawing. We can't have a low CPU synth that eats up your CPU for some flashy graphics

Could have an option to turn it on and off to save CPU...visual feedback is great for sound design but once the sound is finished then CPU savings is preferred. Even better if it can automatically detect if the window is visible or has focus and only do visual feedback if the window is visible and then turn it off to save CPU if it's just running in the background? Might be a good trade-off.

[sqigls]

Hey i could never get my survey coupon to work!
Is there any chance of using it now!?
Thank you
Simon

I'm afraid you're too late. I raised the same question a month ago but got no for an answer.

Balls

[Fleer]

Hey i could never get my survey coupon to work!
Is there any chance of using it now!?
Thank you
Simon

I'm afraid you're too late. I raised the same question a month ago but got no for an answer.

Balls

No glory

[Howard]

One suggestion is the knobs are a little dark on the default gamma setting.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=436230

[saxer]

feature wish here:

as the left and right half of the synth is symmetrical it would be great to use the same midi-controller for both halfs.
midi-learn for the dials on the left half and a switch to use the same controllers for the right. that would save a lot of controllers to set (and most of the time you never have enough anyway).

would be great if that's possible!

[KingTuck]

Massive has alot more functions than this synth yet smarter design.

I disagree. That extra of functionality is paid for by a lot more tabbing, and thus a much slower workflow

Completely right. Hive should combine the power of Massive with a great workflow.

Massive is a horrifying dated Wavetable synth with terrible filters ;___;.

Massive isn't horrifying I wouldn't say haha. Do we move on that quickly in the audio world?

Massive and Hive aren't comparable at all so there is indeed no reason to try and make them similar. Massive won't stop existing once Hive is released, so if someone is looking for Massive they should just use Massive! People forget this all the time it seems. Why does anyone want one synth to rule them all? Limitation of some kind is an important thing.

[Chapelle]

Massive and Hive aren't comparable at all so there is indeed no reason to try and make them similar. Massive won't stop existing once Hive is released, so if someone is looking for Massive they should just use Massive! People forget this all the time it seems. Why does anyone want one synth to rule them all? Limitation of some kind is an important thing.