Linux public beta (4408)

[bmrzycki]

fst is a command that runs .dll
as a standalone, utilizing wineasio, routed with qjackctl.
I think it is fst-host or fsthost in ubuntu.
All the u-he plugins should run that way, cpu requirements allowed for.

fst-host looks promising even if I don't get to use these native Linux u-he versions, thanks!

I wouldn't recommend an autoboot on a laptop, for theft security reasons.

This is going to be a modified Asus Chromebox running Ubuntu and booting straight into Zebra2. I want to use it sort of like a VMachine or a "hardware" VA. The worst that could happen is someone were to get my Zebra2 serial, which I'd notify u-he ASAP if the device were stolen (also unlikey, it's going to stay in my house next to my practice keyboard). But I appreciate the concern.

Radium is a linux daw related to trackers, I know nothing about it,
except the dev is probably a genius, and he has had success with the u-he herd.

I'll check it out. The Linux audio world is definitely different from Win/Mac.

[Beamboom]

Any words on when the next set of (beta) builds will be made public?

Also, may I suggest that you include a link to these downloads from the main site, or at least mention Linux on the product pages? I've lately come across or heard of multiple Linux Bitwig users who's not aware that Linux builds of the U-he VSTs are available. Nor are you mentioned on the first search results for Linux VST on Google, where we are pointed to listings like:

http://energyxt2.wikidot.com/linux-vsts
http://linux-vst.blogspot.no/p/vst-plugins.html

I just want you guys to succeed with your Linux efforts, is all.

[psycha0s]

Beamboom, AFAIK, the new Linux builds will be available after the Musikmesse.

[abique]

Hi,

I'm sorry but the next builds are not ready yet, some features are still in development and requires more time to be ready.

Cheers,
Alex

[hihu]

Beamboom, AFAIK, the new Linux builds will be available after the Musikmesse.

Cool, read somewhere that after Musikmesse the final version will be released.

I can't say it that often but I'm so proud that this is happening on the Linux platform.

[StudioDave]

Also, may I suggest that you include a link to these downloads from the main site, or at least mention Linux on the product pages? I've lately come across or heard of multiple Linux Bitwig users who's not aware that Linux builds of the U-he VSTs are available. Nor are you mentioned on the first search results for Linux VST on Google, where we are pointed to listings like:

http://energyxt2.wikidot.com/linux-vsts
http://linux-vst.blogspot.no/p/vst-plugins.html

Thanks for mentioning that. The fourth listing from that search happens to point to an old page of mine. I've updated it to point to the list at http://linux-sound.org/linux-vst-plugins.html where u-he does have a link.

As always, I'm happy to add anything I've missed. Please advise if you know of other VST/VSTi plugins with native Linux versions.

Best,

dp

[Psychotronic]

Hi,

I'm sorry but the next builds are not ready yet, some features are still in development and requires more time to be ready.

Cheers,
Alex

Software should be released "when it's done", so please take your time. Do not rush on things and screw up.

If you need help with anything. Please ask. There are a lot of skilled people in this little thread based community.

[bmrzycki]

This is going to be a modified Asus Chromebox running Ubuntu and booting straight into Zebra2. I want to use it sort of like a VMachine or a "hardware" VA.

I got it to work today! I used fsthost + wine + alsa + jack + crubuntu (whew!). I had to patch a segfault in fsthost and plan on upstreaming the patch to him tomorrow.

I promise I'll write a blog post for anyone else who wants to try this out. It should work on any Ubuntu machine. The only drawback is that poor little celeron gets hammered by some of the presets. Even so, it's a great little box and a very fun project. I can boot to Zebra in about 10 seconds.

[puredyne]

Hello there!

I bought licenses for ACE & Diva.
Could you please explain to me if it's for the way "Multicore"?

I use:
- Liquorix Kernel, compiled specially for my AMD-FX;
- Jack Audio via RME HDSP;
- Bitwig VST-Host.

Activating "multicore", 50% of CPU consumption in more and different sounds.

[psycha0s]

When the multicore option is enabled, the plugins render active voices on different cores simultaneously. I prefer to have this option enabled.

[glokraw]

This is going to be a modified Asus Chromebox running Ubuntu and booting straight into Zebra2. I want to use it sort of like a VMachine or a "hardware" VA.

I got it to work today! I used fsthost + wine + alsa + jack + crubuntu (whew!). I had to patch a segfault in fsthost and plan on upstreaming the patch to him tomorrow.

I promise I'll write a blog post for anyone else who wants to try this out. It should work on any Ubuntu machine. The only drawback is that poor little celeron gets hammered by some of the presets. Even so, it's a great little box and a very fun project. I can boot to Zebra in about 10 seconds.

That's pretty amazing and cool Might need a video to convince
the windoze curmudgeons. Diva has settings for slower CPU's. Maybe Zebra will have
that in a future update. Hope fsthost use your patch quickly! I wonder if grub could be used
to host a variety of your sessions to choose from? Or maybe you could get them listed
as boot options after a logout. Maybe you could boot into a saved 'ladish session' made of
a few instances of fsthost?
Cheers

[bmrzycki]

That's pretty amazing and cool Might need a video to convince
the windoze curmudgeons.

Well, there's not much to see really. I don't have X11 running on the device and the latest trunk (Rev 406) has an option to build a command-line only version of fsthost, which I did. And I'd say most windows users would dislike the entire setup: there's a lot of command line work here.

Diva has settings for slower CPU's. Maybe Zebra will have that in a future update.

Diva even at draft would eat this cpu for breakfast. Zebra is often very CPU efficient depending on the modules and settings used. It's the occasional preset that has dropouts and crackles.

This build would actually be excellent for Hive, I need to try that...

Hope fsthost use your patch quickly!

I'm going to submit the patch today right after I post this. No guarantees on what the upstream author decides to do. When I do my full write-up I'll place the patch there if it's not applied though so people can always use it.

I wonder if grub could be used to host a variety of your sessions to choose from? Or maybe you could get them listed as boot options after a logout. Maybe you could boot into a saved 'ladish session' made of a few instances of fsthost?

Well, the build doesn't use grub. The chromebox doesn't have a traditional bios and I run the box without a keyboard or monitor. I change settings by sshing via wifi into the box so it'd be possible to setup any friendly VSTi that way.

Another alternative is to load multiple instances of fsthost but have each one listen to a different midi channel with a different VSTi. While quiescent fsthost seems to use little CPU.

This build has me thinking about getting one of the (more expensive) 5th generation Intel NUC with a Core i5. It'd be a fantastic way to use Zebra and also preserve my copy of Alchemy provided I can get the sucker to install in a portable way. One of the beauties of u-he is they doesn't use the registry and the authorization is a simple serial file. That makes it really simple to copy files to the device. Something like Omnisphere would be awesome to use this way but uses Challenge-Response which would be a lot trickier to accomplish.

I promise to post an update when I've got my instructions up to read.

[danboid]

bmrzycki:

wine? fsthost? To run Zebra under crubuntu? Wha??

Why aren't you running zebra natively under Carla, qtractor or another native Linux host? That's what I thought the big fuss about native Linux ports was all about, right? If you're using wine then you've not escaped X11 so why add the extra layer of complexity and resource overhead when you can go native?

Note you need to be running Carla git to access VST sub-plugins.

[bmrzycki]

bmrzycki:

wine? fsthost? To run Zebra under crubuntu? Wha??

Why aren't you running zebra natively under Carla, qtractor or another native Linux host? That's what I thought the big fuss about native Linux ports was all about, right? If you're using wine then you've not escaped X11 so why add the extra layer of complexity and resource overhead when you can go native?

Note you need to be running Carla git to access VST sub-plugins.

Because I'm not really running X11. I'm running fsthost with GTK=0 which builds it as a command-line launcher. I don't know if it's possible to run Carla in a similar manner. If it is I'd happily use it for Zebra.

If I decide to expand this system to run Alchemy I'll need to stick to fsthost though...

[glokraw]

That's pretty amazing and cool Might need a video to convince
the windoze curmudgeons.

Well, there's not much to see really. I don't have X11 running on the device and the latest trunk (Rev 406) has an option to build a command-line only version of fsthost, which I did. And I'd say most windows users would dislike the entire setup: there's a lot of command line work here.

Not much to see? Exactly! Video yourself pounding the keys with the world class Zebra,
with just a terminal or two open. Show launching the alternate session by ssh,
using the up-arrow to repeat bash_history