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colin@loomer · Post by **colin@loomer** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:46 am

That's the plan, Gosh: the product will be available to both try and buy as a beta with a reduced price.

Gosh · Post by **Gosh** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:08 pm

colin@loomer wrote:That's the plan, Gosh: the product will be available to both try and buy as a beta with a reduced price.

then ... count me in!!

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:12 pm

So far the GUI looks a bit bland to me, but I will have to see how it feels in the bigger context.
Can users create their own skins?
I'm pretty much a Bitwig-GUI-addict

To be honest, I still have no real picture of how the whole thing comes together and how the components interact - the last screenshot is confusing this further for me. Maybe !Epoch has grown out of what I personally need in the meantime, which is more a lightweight midi tinkering box.
What about an "!Epoch Lite" with just the modular midi-tinker parts ?

Well, we'll see when we'll see I guess...

Cheers,

Tom

colin@loomer · Post by **colin@loomer** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:34 pm

It can work as a light-weight MIDI processor; it just has various sequencing elements, meaning that MIDI can be generated internally. You are free to ignore them: the Mono Sequencer View I just posted, for example, only appears when you add a Mono Sequencer module to the routing graph.

Making the UI skinnable is doable, but it'd have to be something I look into post-launch, if enough requests demand it.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:54 pm

colin@loomer wrote:

i like the aesthetic. functional and clear. perfect. i wouldn't really request skinning, especially if it would divert resources from other pressing issues post-launch .... but the ability to choose colour schemes would be welcome (if it wasn't going to be too much of a distraction during that all important post-launch bug squashing phase).

as far as functional UI elements, and the issue of too much control VS too little (visible at any one time)... well, while abstraction can be good, I'd hate to forego (micro) functionality in the name of UI principles. For me, it would be ideal to see some kind of minimizing/maximizing triangle button thing (like you described), and/or the provision of assignable macros.

I'd more than likely purchase during the beta, btw.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:06 pm

I like the ideas behind Usine (http://www.sensomusic.com/) in that regard: Not only do you have a nodal view to build your setup, but you can also build your own GUI for it. So for instance when you are using it live, you don't need to go into individual nodes but can rely on the elements you did put on your GUI.
Is something like that possible in !Epoch?

Cheers,

Tom

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:10 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:I like the ideas behind Usine (http://www.sensomusic.com/) in that regard: Not only do you have a nodal view to build your setup, but you can also build your own GUI for it. So for instance when you are using it live, you don't need to go into individual nodes but can rely on the elements you did put on your GUI.
Is something like that possible in !Epoch?

Cheers,

Tom

yes indeed, this would also be a perfectly good system for my uses.

colin@loomer · Post by **colin@loomer** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:18 pm

Yes: there is a dashboard view onto which you can add the relevant UI controls from your patch. Unlike, say, Reaktor, you don't have to use it - the controls are all functional on the graph view a la Pure Data - but it is there as a way to hide the complexity behind a friendly UI.

Also, colour themes are on the roadmap. The code to handle theming is present internally, but there is currently no UI to edit or export them.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:25 pm

kylie · Post by **kylie** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:14 pm

colin@loomer wrote:That's the plan, Gosh: the product will be available to both try and buy as a beta with a reduced price.

I hope the reduction is not big enough to make me sad for not being able to profit from it...

News From The Sky · Post by **News From The Sky** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:52 pm

I appreciate the minimalist clarity of the UI (though it would look even better if it were on my laptop instead...). One of the things that's kept me away from Numerology was that the aesthetic always bugged me for some reason.

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:56 am

I'd like to see the actual Note names above each step.

colin@loomer · Post by **colin@loomer** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:38 am

koalaboy wrote:I'd like to see the actual Note names above each step.

Funnily enough, I am just about to implement that, as well as tidying the label placement.

jowen · Post by **jowen** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:09 am

Collin posted a picture of a sequencer UI, it also would be nice to see a picture from the module with its in and outs?

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:58 pm

colin@loomer wrote:
koalaboy wrote:I'd like to see the actual Note names above each step.
Funnily enough, I am just about to implement that, as well as tidying the label placement.

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