PG8X (inspired by the JX8P): new beta version uploaded

[palaires]

Hi Martin,

Did you take a sneak pic on the MPE ?? http://bit.ly/mpe-spec

Sound wise you are after the character of the hardware, but could you at least extend the pitch bend range? to 24 or 48?

Loving it as days go by Oh and very nice it accepts Midi Program Change.

[Parduz]

mmmhhh... seems i have to try this nice plugin

I don't have plans to add the mod wheel to the GUI.

While i find the UI mod wheels not usefuls at all to play, they are a nice "visual aid" about what's going on a track.

I use FL Studio but a lot of my tracks comes from my Atari with Cubase 2.0, so they have no automation (no graphical line to look at) but "real" midi control events streams, so i often look at the mod wheel position when i hear something going wrong.
I dunno how hard is to implement it, but i'd keep it as a low priority "TODO" (as a programmer myself, i sometime find relaxing to abandon the real problems and put my hands on something trivial).

[Scotty]

I am very impressed with your work. I really enjoy the gui it makes me want to experiment and it sounds like analog hardware to my ears. Well done and many thanks. - Scotty

[davetbass]

mmmhhh... seems i have to try this nice plugin

I don't have plans to add the mod wheel to the GUI.

While i find the UI mod wheels not usefuls at all to play, they are a nice "visual aid" about what's going on a track.

I use FL Studio but a lot of my tracks comes from my Atari with Cubase 2.0, so they have no automation (no graphical line to look at) but "real" midi control events streams, so i often look at the mod wheel position when i hear something going wrong.
I dunno how hard is to implement it, but i'd keep it as a low priority "TODO" (as a programmer myself, i sometime find relaxing to abandon the real problems and put my hands on something trivial).

Just wondering because LMMS is similar to FL Studio, have you been able to record and playback mod wheel movements in FL Studio for PG8X?

Thanks!

[martin_l]

Just wondering because LMMS is similar to FL Studio, have you been able to record and playback mod wheel movements in FL Studio for PG8X?

Thanks!

Any host which can record MIDI should be able to record the Mod Wheel.

Martin.

[electro]

I have been messaging Martin but he didn't have time to check it out yet, the old version (PG8X-12-11) sounds snappier than the new one.
I have adjusted every parameter to mirror the previous version, but it just sounds different even without the chorus enabled.

Here is the midi file and the PG8X presets: https://www.mediafire.com/#4aj8ir7gxyhwx
If you don't have time to test it listen to the mp3 in the folder - the older version is 1st, new 2nd.

I like the old sound much better than this new version. Looks like the envelopes are not the same.

I should mention here, that we are still in beta. The sound is not yet set in stone. I am still adjusting some parameters, to capture better the sound of the hardware. The old versions definitely were further away.

Most of the changes in sound you might notice, you should be able to correct for by slightly changing the parameters.

My aim is clearly to capture the character of the hardware, not the one of some previous beta version.

This is the right goal. Sound engine tweaking will be complete when all .syx patches sound the same.

[telogic]

Hi , As a user of an mks70 for the past 22 years . i got to say that this is a great plugin and could see me parting with the mks .

great work it sounds so close!



Terry

[martin_l]

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[davetbass]

Just wondering because LMMS is similar to FL Studio, have you been able to record and playback mod wheel movements in FL Studio for PG8X?

Thanks!

Any host which can record MIDI should be able to record the Mod Wheel.

Martin.

I guess they are working on it as an enhancement to Vestige (the host),

not that I'm going to complain about free beer haha, but that's one of the 2 most basic synth performance tools, but again I realize it's all volunteers and definitely appreciate all those and you guys do! Also I might be missing something obvious, so I pointed the folks over there to this thread

[planetearth]

I have been messaging Martin but he didn't have time to check it out yet, the old version (PG8X-12-11) sounds snappier than the new one.
I have adjusted every parameter to mirror the previous version, but it just sounds different even without the chorus enabled.

Here is the midi file and the PG8X presets: https://www.mediafire.com/#4aj8ir7gxyhwx
If you don't have time to test it listen to the mp3 in the folder - the older version is 1st, new 2nd.

How can I get the full version and all the presets? The mediafire.com link (above) requires an account, apparently (thought they didn't used to).

Instead, I downloaded the .DLL from the Dropbox folder, but there are about a dozen different files and folders for presets. This may have been answered earlier in this thread, but I've been in a hurry to play with this synth, and I only went back the last few pages to see if there was any info on getting all the presets in one fell swoop.

Thanks!

Steve

[DuX]

Getting all the presets in "one fell swoop" will not work, Steve. Losing a few more calories while clicking a mouse and downloading different presets won't make you sick, on the contrary - it's a good practice. So the only way to get all the presets is to click on each of them and download them. Such a drag, huh? :/ [sarc]

[planetearth]

Getting all the presets in "one fell swoop" will not work, Steve. Losing a few more calories while clicking a mouse and downloading different presets won't make you sick, on the contrary - it's a good practice. So the only way to get all the presets is to click on each of them and download them. Such a drag, huh? :/ [sarc]

Thanks for the sarcastic response.

I was really trying to make sure that the patches that were already zipped up weren't duplicates and that I wouldn't end up creating a mess. All of the files weren't uploaded at the same time, and without downloading them all, I don't know if I need the "default bank" and/or the sysex files. There is no documentation from the developer, and the "readme" and other text files are from other people, and not necessarily even related to the synth or the patches.

Steve

[Lesha]

How can I get the full version and all the presets? The mediafire.com link (above) requires an account, apparently (thought they didn't used to).

I have included the link to a rar file which contains all files, if you want to test the differences between the old and new version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/q1vrf ... ad_all.rar

[martin_l]

I was really trying to make sure that the patches that were already zipped up weren't duplicates and that I wouldn't end up creating a mess. All of the files weren't uploaded at the same time, and without downloading them all, I don't know if I need the "default bank" and/or the sysex files. There is no documentation from the developer, and the "readme" and other text files are from other people, and not necessarily even related to the synth or the patches.

Steve

Hi Steve,

I can see how things are a bit confusing, when just looking into this thread once in a while and not following all the time.

The plugin is still in beta testing phase. Therefore, there is not yet a proper place to collect patches, and the download location for the plugin is only the temporary solution via dropbox.

Once everything is smoothed out (and there are still some issues with the plugin, ranging from broken functionality, to fine adjustments of the sound, which need to be sorted out), I will update my web page as the proper 'home' of the plugin, with more clear download links. I will then also convert and sort all patches, and upload them to the KVR database. Currently there is a terrible mix of patches for the old and the new version.

I see that the lack of documentation can be a problem (as there are some aspects of the plugin which are not immediately clear) and I will write some proper documentation.


Cheers,
Martin

[planetearth]

Thanks lesha and martin_I! I don't need much documentation; I just didn't know if the patches were the same as the sysex files (or which was the latest), so I tried to just go by date. In the end, I simply downloaded everything. I'll work through it tonight.

Steve