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aMUSEd wrote:Why do you need to download again already, did it not complete or something? Surely they would only charge for a redownload if it was successful the first time?

The dude either 1. doesn't understand the concept of backing up files for later use (which is what the Omni upgrade installer recommends to do "backup for use later on other computers" etc, or 2. is one of those folks who must, under any circumstances, find something to complain about.

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I don't know, it sounded like something went wrong with the download, but I can't see Spectrasonics insisting on people paying to download again if the original download was corrupted or incomplete. If it was complete then yes, backup is advised (I already have it on 2 separate USB drives and might burn a copy to Bluray too)

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mholloway wrote:The dude either 1. doesn't understand the concept of backing up files for later use (which is what the Omni upgrade installer recommends to do "backup for use later on other computers" etc, or 2. is one of those folks who must, under any circumstances, find something to complain about.
I know all too well about backups. I also know all too well about backups going corrupt. Normally I'd burn also copy to DVD but I can't do that in this case because it's so large.

I find it surprising that you're so confident in your backup strategy that you imply I am either stupid (1) or stubborn (2). When you use computers long enough it's only a matter of when, not if, data loss occurs.

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aMUSEd wrote:I don't know, it sounded like something went wrong with the download, but I can't see Spectrasonics insisting on people paying to download again if the original download was corrupted or incomplete. If it was complete then yes, backup is advised (I already have it on 2 separate USB drives and might burn a copy to Bluray too)
No, my download was fine and I think Spectra did an excellent job of the digital distribution. I just find it disappointing that should the worst occur I have to pay to re-download. How many people here have robust enough backups to withstand a natural disaster like fire or flood at their home or studio? Or theft? I know I don't.

(I'll stop going on like this, sorry to derail the thread)

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bmrzycki wrote:
mholloway wrote:The dude either 1. doesn't understand the concept of backing up files for later use (which is what the Omni upgrade installer recommends to do "backup for use later on other computers" etc, or 2. is one of those folks who must, under any circumstances, find something to complain about.
I know all too well about backups. I also know all too well about backups going corrupt. Normally I'd burn also copy to DVD but I can't do that in this case because it's so large.

I find it surprising that you're so confident in your backup strategy that you imply I am either stupid (1) or stubborn (2). When you use computers long enough it's only a matter of when, not if, data loss occurs.
Data loss usually indicates a lack of importance of said data or lack of adequate planning and consideration of said backup strategy.

In 2015 it is easier than ever to not lose your data. Not talking down to you, just saying things have come a long way since "back things up on a DVD stored in the same physical location" today.
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No affiliation. Problem solved.

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Been using them for years and stuff that I uploaded in 2011 is still there and that computer doesn't even exist anymore.

Just designate what on your drive is to be backed up and it's done on a daily basis. Depending on your upload speed, doesn't take all that long. Plus, you can schedule backups to either run as files are updated or at a specific time each day.

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I might be in the minority here, but I think what's missing is this, Omnisphere is already a hefty price tag,for example the AIR expansion with strike transfuser, structure,etc. is well over 70gb if your like me an own both mac and pc, and have to download both versions to install it correctly. If i want to download it, it's there for free. I don't have to pay a dime. A little bit of love goes along way.

Bandwidth for downloads should be included in the price tag for these customers for lifetime, in my opinion, I'm out of this conversation though as I don't even like Omnisphere like that ;) and would be extremely mad if I was asked to pay for download in which I already forked over a bunch of cash for. Carry on :D
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It is a little disturbing to hear this re-download charge policy. Seems petty to me.
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trusampler wrote:I might be in the minority here, but I think what's missing is this, Omnisphere is already a hefty price tag,for example the AIR expansion with strike transfuser, structure,etc. is well over 70gb if your like me an own both mac and pc, and have to download both versions to install it correctly. If i want to download it, it's there for free. I don't have to pay a dime. A little bit of love goes along way.

Bandwidth for downloads should be included in the price tag for these customers for lifetime, in my opinion, I'm out of this conversation though as I don't even like Omnisphere like that ;) and would be extremely mad if I was asked to pay for download in which I already forked over a bunch of cash for. Carry on :D
The Omni 2 download includes both Mac and Windows versions, so if you need both, it's still only one download.
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trusampler wrote:I might be in the minority here, but I think what's missing is this, Omnisphere is already a hefty price tag,for example the AIR expansion with strike transfuser, structure,etc. is well over 70gb if your like me an own both mac and pc, and have to download both versions to install it correctly. If i want to download it, it's there for free. I don't have to pay a dime. A little bit of love goes along way.

Bandwidth for downloads should be included in the price tag for these customers for lifetime, in my opinion, I'm out of this conversation though as I don't even like Omnisphere like that ;) and would be extremely mad if I was asked to pay for download in which I already forked over a bunch of cash for. Carry on :D
Agreed, seems stupid and petty to nickle and dime customers who are dropping hundreds of dollars on your software.

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Backing up data is something the majority of us do.
But to be on the reasonable side, I would hope that Spectra would at least consider on a case to case basis for granting (re)downloads. And yes it seems a bit petty to me also of them to do it in the first place... feels kind of like the IK Multimedia greed rearing its head in corporate viral acceptance. While bandwidth for them runs in the dollars for them, it often runs in the tens of dollars for us.
Those of you with unlimited data may be insensitive to the fact that many of us are charged a base price for a per month basis and then have to pay fees that result in $10.00 per GB after that.
Which could easily translate to another $80.00-$180.00 for this - depending on plan and whether or not you're okay with not being able to do anything else on the internet for that month to do it.
Two reasons for data loss that I know of are poor planning/lack of available media to back up to
AND catastrophic loss. (Catastrophes I've experience twice). These catastrophes had nothing to do with magnets or pulse generators but theft. Having a studio and store house robbed of every instrument, computer and media. I wished they had a cloud then (at least for my original works).

This is something any company not trying to nickle and dime their customers for their own greed should understand. But hey, we know they're going to do what they do and that it seems to be a way that more and more companies are adopting. Because for them, the only thing better then getting you to buy it in the first place is finding ways to charge you for it again, whether in part or whole.

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bmrzycki wrote:Normally I'd burn also copy to DVD but I can't do that in this case because it's so large.
You know that you can split *.zip (or *.rar or most of other packer formats) files into segments that fit on a DVD?

http://kb.winzip.com/kb/entry/255

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Paying for redownloads is ridiculous. It's something that should be offered for free as a courtesy. Spectatronics should (probably do) know that most users won't redownload the software multiple time, free or not.

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KingTuck wrote:Paying for redownloads is ridiculous. It's something that should be offered for free as a courtesy. Spectatronics should (probably do) know that most users won't redownload the software multiple time, free or not.
I guess with budget priced software it's understandable if the company nickel and dimes their customers a little...

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DocAtlas wrote:
trusampler wrote:for example the AIR expansion with strike transfuser, structure,etc. is well over 70gb if your like me an own both mac and pc, and have to download both versions to install it correctly. If i want to download it, it's there for free. I don't have to pay a dime. A little bit of love goes along way.
The Omni 2 download includes both Mac and Windows versions, so if you need both, it's still only one download.

Hi, I don't think you read this correctly, i was simply stating, other companies with large data are offering it for free, and there's no other money that exchanges hands. I'm aware that Omni offers both formats though thanks. That's nice of them.
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