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zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sun May 24, 2015 11:18 am

Fire your search engine. Its on page 5,6, and 7 of this very thread.
Rsp

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun May 24, 2015 4:35 pm

Pitch and mod wheels aren't supposed to be automated.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sun May 24, 2015 4:43 pm

Are some people playing Hive without a Keyboard Midi Controller?
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Howard · Post by **Howard** » Sun May 24, 2015 8:37 pm

Satch1 wrote:phase spread parameter for the oscillators in phase reset mode...

+1

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun May 24, 2015 9:10 pm

zvenx wrote:Are some people playing Hive without a Keyboard Midi Controller?
rsp

Yeah, some are obviously just clicking in the piano roll...

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Sun May 24, 2015 9:41 pm

Guy i have Zebra and Hive look very atractive ,i want to know if this synth can be use to make Indu rock ( like NIN ...) Or it is really better in EDM ...And hive does something zebra can't ? Thx for your advice.

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Sun May 24, 2015 9:47 pm

hivkorn wrote:Guy i have Zebra and Hive look very atractive ,i want to know if this synth can be use to make Indu rock ( like NIN ...) Or it is really better in EDM ...And hive does something zebra can't ? Thx for your advice.

Hive can be used for everything <3.

Well...okay, maybe not EVERYTHING. Right now, it's an absolutely staggering workhorse and a perfect "successor" to Sylenth. The sound is rich and versatile and can absolutely be used for styles beyond EDM. Honestly, I've heard more non-EDM tracks for Hive at this point!

Unsurprisingly, I've enthusiastically got a laundry list of feature-requests. But there's only so much Hive will or *should* have. It's by no means a replacement for Zebra if your desire is every type of feature and synthesis under the sun.

But for me, that's the benefit. I've learned the hard way that you don't need all the bells and whistles. Hive doesn't get in your way, is low on CPU, but delivers Diva-esque hardware sound. Even if it doesn't have as much as Spire or other synths at the moment, I still go to it now as my number 1 softsynth (and then Spire if it has something that Hive doesn't right now. Spire has many waveforms, FM/Sync, and great effects like Vowel Phasers which is particularly good for styles like Dubsteps for those growls). You don't need to be a ten-year synth specialist to love and get great millage out of this synth, and many others seem to agree with me. Right now, there are over *2000* patches for this thing...and it's not even technically out yet!

But don't take my word for it! try out the demo and see for yourself! ^^.

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Sun May 24, 2015 10:03 pm

I m working on several project and i don t use demo it for not be disctracted or change something and to be stopped by the demo time limitation.

I have look a vidz of hive yesterday on youtube and i was amazed by what i was listening.

Bazille and Ace was not my stuffs (but i know they sound good) , but HIVE call me , i love the blue GUI.

Thank you Shiek to have take the time to response.

I have a S1 artist V3 to sell 35 $ (to paid HIVE)

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Sun May 24, 2015 10:51 pm

hivkorn wrote:I m working on several project and i don t use demo it for not be disctracted or change something and to be stopped by the demo time limitation.

I have look a vidz of hive yesterday on youtube and i was amazed by what i was listening.

Bazille and Ace was not my stuffs (but i know they sound good) , but HIVE call me , i love the blue GUI.

Thank you Shiek to have take the time to response.

I have a S1 artist V3 to sell 35 $ (to paid HIVE)

There is no demo time limitation. There's only a small crackling sound at a few intervals. Nothing stops you from even saving presets ^^.

phdsg vn chfhn · Post by **phdsg vn chfhn** » Sun May 24, 2015 11:06 pm

Urs wrote: [..]
I was wondering if that could happen. There was some code that made me scratch my head, but as it has been used for years I hadn't given it further attention.

I shall look into it asap.

happy hunting

meanwhile, i checked other u-he synths (bazille, tyrell, podolski, zebralette, triplecheese) for sustain-pedal oddities.
all except bazille seem to ignore the hold-off event. (transport start/stop resets though)

Perimeter Sound · Post by **Perimeter Sound** » Mon May 25, 2015 12:12 am

hivkorn wrote:Guy i have Zebra and Hive look very atractive ,i want to know if this synth can be use to make Indu rock ( like NIN ...) Or it is really better in EDM ...And hive does something zebra can't ? Thx for your advice.

IMO Hive can be used for just about any style of music, short of actual real-world instrument recreations. Samplers are just better for that, in every case in the history of ever basically ha-ha. I have actually gotten some fairly chunky and/or heavy-ish sounds out of Hive (ie = in the *industrial* music vein). Though I also wouldn't say it's geared toward that, it is as capable (if not more so) than most synths with it's feature set.

Do you need it ? I would say maybe....But not really if you are good at programming Zebra. I'm sure plenty of folks would argue with me, and I don't mean to criticize Hive, but it's not thaaatttt radically different in the VA synthesis department, which is a lot of Zebra and almost all of Hive at least thus far. Also, Zebra has considerably more functionality as far as making more & different sounds. But Hive is pretty darn hard to beat as it is for what it is, and with the intro price, well, let's just say it's certainly not a bad deal even if you already have Zebra eh. If you like how the demo sounds, and you find yourself making/tweaking sounds right away, then it's probably a good synth for you to get. I realize that seems like an awfully simplistic way of determining if you should get Hive, but that's how I did and I don't regret the purchase some 6 months later.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon May 25, 2015 3:26 am

I just realized that the single mode lfo's do not work the same as in previous Hive versions.
The single setting used to reset similar to the gate setting, now it flows more like the sync setting.
It needs to be said that this has made any sounds I created using the single lfo mode, to not play as intended.
Hope I can fix them to the gate lfo mode, and thereby correct them to sound as intended.
Luckily there's not many.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon May 25, 2015 3:42 am

hivkorn wrote:Guy i have Zebra and Hive look very atractive ,i want to know if this synth can be use to make Indu rock ( like NIN ...) Or it is really better in EDM ...And hive does something zebra can't ? Thx for your advice.

Hive is better for having a sequencer, thou I feel Zebra's arpeggiator is better, though you can mix both arp and sequencer in Hive for some more interesting variations.
I think Zebra is best for the nin industrial type sounds as it has ring mods and the fm modules.
There's something else it has that really helps for those kinds of tones is the Sideband module.
Though to find out just try the demo of Hive out.

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Mon May 25, 2015 3:57 am

mcnoone wrote:
hivkorn wrote:Guy i have Zebra and Hive look very atractive ,i want to know if this synth can be use to make Indu rock ( like NIN ...) Or it is really better in EDM ...And hive does something zebra can't ? Thx for your advice.
Hive is better for having a sequencer, thou I feel Zebra's arpeggiator is better, though you can mix both arp and sequencer in Hive for some more interesting variations.
I think Zebra is best for the nin industrial type sounds as it has ring mods and the fm modules.
There's something else it has that really helps for those kinds of tones is the Sideband module.
Though to find out just try the demo of Hive out.

You're definitely right that Zebra can do better bells and metallic timbres right now with what it has. FM/Sync is apparently on the road-map though, which will certainly help with those more digital sounds which is necessary for far too many dance styles.

With Sync, I can't help but wonder if it will be a more traditional hard/soft-sync or something like Bazille's "Fractal Resonance" since you can allegedly get hard-sync like sounds out of that

. You can also make great fantastic formant like sounds. Not so sure how good that would be for lush trance-like choir sounds, but it sounds wonderful for throaty Dubstep growls. I've said before that Vowel Phasers would be wonderful for sounds like this, but this is a great substitute ^^.

I've said that I'd love a formant filter and/or vocal waveforms...something to get more vocals out of Hive. Depending on how much you can get out of FR, it may cut things down on the needed features.

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Mon May 25, 2015 6:58 am

thank you all for your responses.I will really consider to buy HIVE now (i hope before the intro price end).

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