I have to agree.....auto loading every time you scroll to an entry in the library would drive me crazy and probably cause performance issues.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: I'll relay that and the potential for autoloading when navigating with arrow keys (though I'd hope that would be an option personally, not the only choice and in my case not the default).
I am glad you find SampleTank 3 an inspirational part of your workflow. I have enjoyed the workstation prowess of SampleTank for a long time (long before I was with IK) and think SampleTank 3 is a great progression of the workstation and can be part of a very efficient compositional workflow.Fleer wrote: In my experience, ST3 is a helluva workstation. And as such, it's highly inspirational.
And it would be an even greater Workstation with some classic Rompler Soundsets......M1, Wavestation, Triton sort of stuff..........Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: I am glad you find SampleTank 3 an inspirational part of your workflow. I have enjoyed the workstation prowess of SampleTank for a long time (long before I was with IK) and think SampleTank 3 is a great progression of the workstation and can be part of a very efficient compositional workflow.
I agree. A good portion of my (musically) formative years were during the earlier days of the hardware workstation/rompler. I could wax nostalgic and enjoy some of them inside a currently comfortable and modernized version of that workflow.Teksonik wrote:And it would be an even greater Workstation with some classic Rompler Soundsets......M1, Wavestation, Triton sort of stuff..........Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: I am glad you find SampleTank 3 an inspirational part of your workflow. I have enjoyed the workstation prowess of SampleTank for a long time (long before I was with IK) and think SampleTank 3 is a great progression of the workstation and can be part of a very efficient compositional workflow.
Nothing against new high quality Pianos and Drums but I've got that area well covered. ST3's ability to layer up to 16 sounds is where it's power really lies for me..........I need layer fodder........
Sorry I missed this first time 'round. It is indeed a great sound library. Check out the video if you haven't seen it:xNiMiNx wrote:Mr Bozzio? Props IK!
But they aren't doing it "for free" are they? Nobody is asking them to release ONLY a free player engine, and not ST3... Presumably, as I and several others have clearly explained, ST3 is worth buying (according to IKM), and people who only want a 64 bit engine (like me and many others) wouldn't buy it anyway. But it's quite apparent that IKM don't think ST3 is that great, otherwise why are they afraid of bringing out a free ST3 player? The two reasons they've given us are patently bullshit: one being that "we didn't release a free version of ST2 for many years", as if that is in any way relevant whatsoever, and the other being that the sounds are 'connected' in some way to ST3's engine (I forget the exact quote, which I posted earlier in this, or the other ST3 thread). So they give us two reasons which don't convince anybody, and you have set up a strawman argument. Nobody is trying to "to tell any company that once they sell a product that they are obligated to pay programmers to keep it compatible with new OS's for free;".AnalogGuy1 wrote:Basslinemaster: it is a phenomenal amount of work getting 32 bit optimized programs working in a 64 bit environment. Part of the issue is with the audio engine code and part is the graphic engine code. The former is tough because the original code was probably impossible to read - writing highly-optimized SSE code means going for efficiency rather than undestandability, and after many years the coders probably needed to figure out a lot of it de novo. The latter is tough because Windows is getting more painful to program in every day, thanks to things like UAC that can throw exceptions when writing to formerly-safe areas, and major changes in the way Windows handles graphics (that one happens to be an improvement, but is still a major change).
So, it isn't reasonable to tell any company that once they sell a product that they are obligated to pay programmers to keep it compatible with new OS's for free; most companies would surely fail.
But I have loads of good sounds in ST 2.5, Sonik Synth and Miroslav, especially combis, which I paid a lot of money for, and want to continue using.AnalogGuy1 wrote: I'm not an IK user, by the way; I stopped using ST2 four years ago because they would not release a 64 bit program and moved over to Kontakt. Could not be happier; you should think about doing the same, especially with the NI summer sale on. Just don't want to see you waste time hating Peter or IK over a misplaced reason; just move on and be happy.
I think you'll find that most of the new ST3 libraries aren't worth buying... I presume they think that people who are foolish enough to buy ST3 (instead of paying 50 Euros more and buying Omnisphere 2, for example) are the sort who will buy their not very good libraries...neverenoughfunk wrote:i think Terry Bozzio is great drummer... seen him in concert with Zappa, Becker Brothers and Missing Person (US Drag is amazing... Some Shunk Funk... along with the Black Page Number 2)... but this library sounds like trash!!!
is it free for users of Sampletank 3 because they cant be charging for it... right? maybe?
p.s. this is not a personal attack... i am "only" talking about the library itself here... and nothing else... just my personal feelings towards the library... simple as that!!!
i will admit the concept of Sampletank 3 is pretty nice... can be used for a lot of applications... from producing to backing tracks... but it is beginning to appear that owning Sampletank 3 can get expensive fast... that is why i think the Komplete series is a better buy... especially, if you catch a sale... yes, i would purchase Omnisphere 2 before Sampletank 3 also...basslinemaster wrote:I think you'll find that most of the new ST3 libraries aren't worth buying... I presume they think that people who are foolish enough to buy ST3 (instead of paying 50 Euros more and buying Omnisphere 2, for example) are the sort who will buy their not very good libraries...neverenoughfunk wrote:i think Terry Bozzio is great drummer... seen him in concert with Zappa, Becker Brothers and Missing Person (US Drag is amazing... Some Shunk Funk... along with the Black Page Number 2)... but this library sounds like trash!!!
is it free for users of Sampletank 3 because they cant be charging for it... right? maybe?
p.s. this is not a personal attack... i am "only" talking about the library itself here... and nothing else... just my personal feelings towards the library... simple as that!!!
Those demo's sound infinately better to me than a demo i just heard of ProDrummer. 2< vs 60gb, i would have thought i was hearing the wrong demos.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:More audio demos, and the library itself available at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/st ... zziodrums/
Pretty awsome stuff on the Fantomas tour.
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