The sound of other DAWS versus Tracktion....

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i think i must be a ruthless bastard
i've been making music for so long i obviously just dont give a shit
is tracktion better quality
i dont know and i dont care if you have to make comparisons just do it with your ears f**k all this technical shit
tracktion sounds good to me :D
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ttauri wrote:
valley wrote:If you take a wav file, load it into your sequencer, set everything at unity, disable dither, and export it, you should end up with something that is as near as damnit a perfect replica of the original.
I had some stem mixes lying around from the last project, so I gave it a try, and indeed at unity, a phase reversed file from Logic or Tracktion nulled the file from the other.

OK all's well and good. But then I tried a second experiment: I bounced down with all the stems' volumes set -3.1 db (reason for that value has to do with the increments available on Logic's mixer fader). After doing that and trying the null test, they don't null. Tracktion's problem? Logic's problem? My problem? I dunno. But a simple change produces different results. :?:

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Good test with Logic I have always wanted to know if there were any differences with any other top end packages out there.

I think Samplitude uses a stereo width plug on the master out this may give it a slightly brighter sound.

Your second test with Logic was not such good news but even if there was a difference Logic costs more than 10 times as much as Tracktion so Jules has done very well to even come close or possibly match the big boys for sound.

Very interesting thread... the more viewpoints the merrier! 8)
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I used Cubase 5, SX, and PT before using Tracktion. Non of my friends or people that buy music from me can tell the difference in sound quality. The beats sound the same to them. So Tracktion sounds as good as any other DAW I've used.
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christianmusicmaker wrote: Good test with Logic
Not really. The question of dB scaling was never addressed. It doesn't matter in the slightest if two hosts don't exactly agree on how to scale 4.8dB. The difference would be equivalent to the level markings on a mixer being a 10th or so of a mil out (not an unlikely scenario). You mix by ear, so if you could hear the difference at all, you'd compensate for it without even realising.
I think Samplitude uses a stereo width plug on the master out
If this is correct, I would very much hope that it could be disabled.
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valley wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote: Good test with Logic
Not really. The question of dB scaling was never addressed. It doesn't matter in the slightest if two hosts don't exactly agree on how to scale 4.8dB. The difference would be equivalent to the level markings on a mixer being a 10th or so of a mil out (not an unlikely scenario). You mix by ear, so if you could hear the difference at all, you'd compensate for it without even realising.
I think Samplitude uses a stereo width plug on the master out
If this is correct, I would very much hope that it could be disabled.
Valley...you are indeed an expert! :)

I have a copy of Music Studio (a version of Samplitude V.7)and it does indeed have a stereo plug on the master out.

You can center it to avoid a widening effect and many others may say it does not affect the sound if used this way but I would guess it still might. 8)Maybe... :wink:
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There's always been a positive change for me in importing a track from Reason to Tracktion: that's why I do it so often! It sounds clearer and crisper in Tracktion, I can hear more. It's as though Reason homogenizes the sound but Tracktion expands it, lets it breathe. This is not mathematical but I've heard it for months so does that make it empirical? Perhaps personally empirical...
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gizmo wrote:There's always been a positive change for me in importing a track from Reason to Tracktion: that's why I do it so often! It sounds clearer and crisper in Tracktion, I can hear more. It's as though Reason homogenizes the sound but Tracktion expands it, lets it breathe. This is not mathematical but I've heard it for months so does that make it empirical? Perhaps personally empirical...
I dont think Tracktion can add quality to the sound from other apps. Atleast I've never experienced it. But that sayd, I'm not a fan of the Reason sound at all. Its one of the main reasons I dont use it anymore. Theres something very weak about the sound and I dont know what it is. I guess its possible thats its all in my head somehow but I doubt it.
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For those people who don't hear with their ears, there is a world of difference. Note the use of the word, "colour."

I wonder, does hearing work on a similar principle to vision; assumption and corroboration? We can do some amazing things with our senses, but they are far from being precise and accurate instruments.
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personally I don't think you can underestimate how much what you see affects what you hear. either way, you adjust to seeing the same thing after a while and it shouldn't actually have an effect.
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Don't know if it includes Tracktion, but here's a bunch of comparisons - anyone bought/heard it ?

http://www.3daudioinc.com/catalog/produ ... 94849ac15f
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christianmusicmaker wrote: Valley...you are indeed an expert! :)
No-one *ever* accused me of being an expert before. :-o

;)
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valley wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote: Valley...you are indeed an expert! :)
No-one *ever* accused me of being an expert before. :-o

;)
This is one accusation many will happily accept :hihi:
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