AGAIN: Split Track to Separate Wav Files While Recording?

[brucerothwell]

Since there has been no response on this, even though I even sent Jules a private email, could someone please tell me if this feature is possible, or will ever be considered? At least some sort of acknowledgement would be much appreciated.

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[Note: Since the original thread, I have switched over using Spin Doctor II on a Mac, but have to define the tracks following the the recording, instead of in real time diring the recording]

I am currently using a program called EZTracker on
a Windows PC for doing live recording of sermons.
However, I'd like to switch to using a Mac, but need
to find different software because EZTracker does not work on a Mac.

What EZTracker allows me to to do is either manually or automatically (at pre-defined intervals) initiate a new wave file while recording live. This allows for immediate CD creation after the recording has stopped, with the sermon already being split into to separate tracks... which is most valuable to the listener of an hour-long sermon... the user can start up listening again at a specific track if they got interuppted.

Enter Tracktion.

Would it be possible to, at minimum, add the capability to have the "/" key (split) function during the recording process, thus closing the existing wave file and initiating a new one without losing any material? Or, add a new feature called "New Wave".

If this were possible to be done, I would buy Tracktion for sure. Even if it would take a little while to see the feature, but knowing that it's coming, I would hold off switching over to the Mac until such a time.

I'd appreciate a response from the author, if possible, on the feasibility of this feature being added.

Thanks!

[GaryG]

Well Jules is obviously the only person who can say whether something like this can be included BUT...

...I would doubt it very much; probably pretty simple to do but not really in Tracktions 'remit'. Do any other multitracker/sequencers have features like this? Not something that's high on the list of priorities for most users (not a feature used in day to day music production) so I can't see developers rushing to include it.

Surely there must be some mac audio app that allows batch scripting/processing to chop your wave into cd-size files?

A mac user will be along in a minute.



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[Rack Bitz]

well if your prepared to use tracktion on a pc
you can have a vst off me to do it
i made it for myself cause i needed it once
but i dont have a mac version
oh i never released it cuz i didnt think anyone would want it
cheers

[brucerothwell]

To GaryG:
I understand what you are saying, however the "daily production" you refer to is probably not the same as mine. I'm trying yo get a system set up that allows me to do live multitrack recording of church services that have contemporary worship. But by the time I get to the sermon, I don't want to change to a different system. I'd like to be able to create separate wav files representing the wav files that will become the sermon CD. I need to get to where the master CD for this is "done" by the time the service is over.
Therefore, my "daily production" requires this kind of feature. I think Tracktion can be more full-featured than other tools. I mean, everyone else expects this to be the case when it comes to their preferred features, right? Thanks for your response!

To Rack Bitz:
I'd like to try your VST plugin. Can you explain exactly how it works and let me know how I can get it? Perhaps I can get a Mac one made at some point. Thanks for your response, too!

Bruce

[Rack Bitz]

er the plug wont ever be released unless more people ask for it
its an absolute mess to look at
i havent even attempted a GUI cuz no one wants the plug
if you want a copy i can email to you direct
it works pretty simply actually
tell it the file name
feed it the audio and when you want to record press record
when you want the recording to end you press stop
i originally made it so i could drop all the tracks in an edit to the harddrive so they could be loaded into acid and remixed
but now i only use it for live jaming and recording
this way i can fiddle with synths and fx
all while tracktion is just running in loop mode
and all the trax are written to individual files
but i dont see the point of you having a copy unless your going to use a pc?
doesnt really make sense to me

cheers

oh and i wouldnt hold much hope of this making it into Tracktion
i know it is your routine but
the routine of one person will be outweighed by the needs of the masses
jules has so much stuff that people are already expecting
in fact id say personally for jules it must be pretty daunting because
somewhere along the line a lot of features that people are demanding in V2 are just gonna have to be left
theres absolutly no way jules would be able to implement everybodys requests all the time
so Tracktion may not be the right choice for you if this is all you want to do

[brucerothwell]

Rack Bitz,

It sounds like your VST puts all the tracks to separate wav files. What I need is to be able to SPLIT a track to separate wav files. If I'm wrong about your VST plugin, I'd like to try it.

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Bruce

[jules]

Hello. Sorry I didn't reply - I've actually forgotten to check my PM for about a month now (from about the same time the KVR site changed and no longer had a big message telling you about new PMs when you log-in...)

Cutting the wave files sounds pretty simple, but is actually a bit tricky technically, because it involves a lot of messing around opening/closing files while it's still recording, and that it's just not set up that way. If it was a 10-minute change I'd consider it, but I don't really think there'd be enough people who'd find it useful to make it worthwhile..

[Rack Bitz]

hey jules
you need to turn on pm alert in your profile now
i think

[jules]

hey jules
you need to turn on pm alert in your profile now
i think

aha.. that'll be it.

[brucerothwell]

Jules... would you consider splitting the track to separate wav files based on the splits created with the Split feature that already exists?

Right now, I'm doing the splits in Spin Doctor 2 as a post-recording process, but I have no editing capability. This is where Tracktion would be a better option for me.

Since you already have a Split feature, perhaps adding the ability to save out the wav files based on the split points would a "10-minute change"?

Thanks for any time and consideration on your part.

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Bruce

[Rack Bitz]

oh i forgot to say that my plug will do it both ways
feed the audio into it then press record and then press stop when you want that particular recording to stop
the trick is to set up multiple slots so that you just press record on the next slot and that starts recording the audio to another file
hope this makes sense
if i had time i could probably set it up so that when you pressed record on slot 2 slot 1 would stop recording and the same goes with all the other slots
problem is i havent got time to spend on a plug that nobody but you wants
but if your willing to have a go at synthedit
i'll try and find the original source(its on my harddrive somewhere)
and you could make the mods yourself
other than that i wont be able to work on it for you for probably a month maybe two sorry
but i will get back on it if you want me to
not at the moment though im too busy sorry

anyway let me know if you want the source
or get back to me in a month or so

cheers