LennarDigital

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:31 pm

cotdagoo wrote:I have a feeling that Lennard is so worried about copy protection and people stealing his work that he's gone blind to the fact that these delays are killing any hopes of people taking his company seriously anymore.

Webpage still says they hope to get it done in the 2nd half of 2014.. Well shit, we're in the 2nd half of 2015 now and the only thing anyone has seen is a jpg posted to the facebook group..

Doesn't look good!

Pretty normal considering the size of the company. Spire 1.1 was also supposed to be coming out a year ago. Now it's June 2015, and they weren't even able to release it in may, but released an all but finished beta version. Hive was supposed to be finished (or hoped to be released) before christmas 2014. Actually the project was announced to be released as a cheap simple synth. That's how things change, especially with small companies. I think everyone is a bit unreasonable here. Also, never trust a developers deadline. It's not even that they lie, it's just that some things simply can't be planned properly.

Echoes in the Attic · Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:46 pm

chk071 wrote:
cotdagoo wrote:I have a feeling that Lennard is so worried about copy protection and people stealing his work that he's gone blind to the fact that these delays are killing any hopes of people taking his company seriously anymore.

Webpage still says they hope to get it done in the 2nd half of 2014.. Well shit, we're in the 2nd half of 2015 now and the only thing anyone has seen is a jpg posted to the facebook group..

Doesn't look good!
Pretty normal considering the size of the company. Spire 1.1 was also supposed to be coming out a year ago. Now it's June 2015, and they weren't even able to release it in may, but released an all but finished beta version. Hive was supposed to be finished (or hoped to be released) before christmas 2014. Actually the project was announced to be released as a cheap simple synth. That's how things change, especially with small companies. I think everyone is a bit unreasonable here. Also, never trust a developers deadline. It's not even that they lie, it's just that some things simply can't be planned properly.

True enough. Or Zebra 3 was supposed to come out a couple years ago.

But the difference is that these other examples actually had new feature development. Sylenth1 update is just 64 bit mac. Something everyone else did a long time ago. So a year delay for a no feature update seems a lot to people I think.

Of course it's always possible they've decided to take the extra time and add some extra features but I feel like that would have been teased. If that happened it doesn't matter what anyone would say here, everyone would rejoice and forget they were ever impatient.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:53 pm

Yeah, it's a bit heavy with the Sylenth1 AU, that's true.

But then, i can only guess how much work such a rewrite could be.

Btw, if i was them, i'd work on Sylenth2, at least that would create some (extra) money in the process.

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:33 am

i would call it Loudneth instead of Sylenth

ok, a bit lame...

quantize · Post by **quantize** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:08 am

I don't think there's much chance anyone would take them seriously anymore.

The 'cone of silence' policy cuts both ways...if you deliver on your releases and keep your products well supported and up-to-date with current technology then it's fine. But when you don't it makes a company seem either incompetent or unable to manage their products.

They'd be well advised to start a public beta or stick the hell with their current auth system asap.

gebz_15 · Post by **gebz_15** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:26 am

chk071 wrote:
cotdagoo wrote:I have a feeling that Lennard is so worried about copy protection and people stealing his work that he's gone blind to the fact that these delays are killing any hopes of people taking his company seriously anymore.

Webpage still says they hope to get it done in the 2nd half of 2014.. Well shit, we're in the 2nd half of 2015 now and the only thing anyone has seen is a jpg posted to the facebook group..

Doesn't look good!
Pretty normal considering the size of the company. Spire 1.1 was also supposed to be coming out a year ago. Now it's June 2015, and they weren't even able to release it in may, but released an all but finished beta version. Hive was supposed to be finished (or hoped to be released) before christmas 2014. Actually the project was announced to be released as a cheap simple synth. That's how things change, especially with small companies. I think everyone is a bit unreasonable here. Also, never trust a developers deadline. It's not even that they lie, it's just that some things simply can't be planned properly.

Also REFX mentioned a vanguard update, that was ages ago and nothing has been mentioned since.

psycha0s · Post by **psycha0s** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:23 am

Why LennarDigital can't make a port to OSX 64-bit for years when they've already done it for Windows? As a software developer, I can say that it could be done relatively quick. The only possible explanation to me is that due to some circumstances they simply don't have a time for doing this. (Just thinking aloud: maybe it would be better to hire an experienced freelancer?)

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:28 am

phantom-one wrote:Why LennarDigital can't make a port to OSX 64-bit for years when they've already done it for Windows? As a software developer, I can say that it could be done relatively quick. The only possible explanation to me is that due to some circumstances they simply don't have a time for doing this. (Just thinking aloud: maybe it would be better to hire an experienced freelancer?)

I don't think that the old rumour that they lost the source code has ever been comprehensively disproven

keel · Post by **keel** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:28 am

People doesnt seems to understand that what it takes one man to write whole synth from the scratch. Lennard needed to write whole synth again, so he can do that 64bit mac. It takes a of time, and personally, i will rather wait and then use bug free synth, than using buggy and rushed release. What i have understood from the teasers, the synth is pretty much ready, but Lennard is focusing to improve the sound quality. In the end, Sylenth is what 7 or 8 years old. So, take your time, Lennard, and deliver us bug free and "best", soundin synth. Version 3.0 is here soon. Be patienced

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:30 am

maybe also matching up the previous sound quality to ensure project compatibility is a difficult task.

psycha0s · Post by **psycha0s** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:35 am

keel wrote:People doesnt seems to understand that what it takes one man to write whole synth from the scratch. Lennard needed to write whole synth again, so he can do that 64bit mac.

You have something to confuse, Sylenth is already ported to 64-bit Windows, thus the DSP engine itself is also ported. The only OSX-specific code should be written. This is not a huge task at all (considering the existence of the 32-bit OSX version). It could be done faster than for several years. That's why I think Lennard don't have a much time to work on the update. Otherwise, he would have already done it. Please, understand me correctly, I don't blame him, just stating a fact.

keel wrote:What i have understood from the teasers, the synth is pretty much ready, but Lennard is focusing to improve the sound quality.

Are you talking about the screenshot in the facebook? Well, it's just a screenshot.

manducator · Post by **manducator** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:27 pm

I do understand that LennarDigital is a small company.
I do understand that it's hard to predict a release date.
I don't understand why a developer doesn't give info to his (potential) customers.

A company that neglect the people from who they want to earn money, is a bad company. Period.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:32 pm

But isn't that what Ruben does? Giving infos and stuff? There's a lot more info than there was like 2 or 3 years ago now. You even know that they're working on Sylenth1 now.

I do get that the external presentation is not perfect, but it's not true that there are no infos. Actually i believe FB is a better platform for this stuff nowadays anyway. And they posted a few teasers there.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:59 pm

phantom-one wrote: You have something to confuse, Sylenth is already ported to 64-bit Windows, thus the DSP engine itself is also ported. The only OSX-specific code should be written.

Quote from a year ago........

Ruben(LD) wrote: Apple has decided to drop the graphical interface support which Lennard used to create Sylenth1, this means all of Sylenth has to been programmed from the bottom up.

Bottom line is either Lennard is unable or unwilling to deliver a Sylenth update. Speculation is it could be anything from a lack of time to total apathy........or anything in between but the bottom line remains the same....no update.

To be honest I don't know why any small developer would spread himself thin by trying to support the Mac. There must be a significant financial incentive to do so........otherwise it wouldn't be worth the trouble.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:08 pm

I'm sure a lot of people using Sylenth are on a Mac though, so i'd say it definitely makes sense to support it too. What about that Armin van Buuren Kickstarter appeal for 64-bit AU Sylenth?

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64bit OS X , When?