✔ Step Sequencer Device... [Bitwig]
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Step sequencers aren't just for note entry remember, they are live compositional tools to jam with.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
- KVRAF
- 2562 posts since 1 Oct, 2013
What's the difference between a step sequencer and piano roll sequences in the session view?VariKusBrainZ wrote:Step sequencers aren't just for note entry remember, they are live compositional tools to jam with.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Nothing if its just a basic vanilla sequencer.Ogopogo wrote:What's the difference between a step sequencer and piano roll sequences in the session view?VariKusBrainZ wrote:Step sequencers aren't just for note entry remember, they are live compositional tools to jam with.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
However it would have the advantage off each step being midi controllable.
I use the ARP and Step mod devices this way but a purpose made sequencer would be nice.
Throw in LFO devices to modulate speed, number of steps etc for craziness
- KVRAF
- 2562 posts since 1 Oct, 2013
Thanks. Maybe there are some enhancements to the piano roll that could be added to make it more of an uber step sequencer for people who like that?
I was thinking probability for each note would be cool.
I was thinking probability for each note would be cool.
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Ogopogo wrote:Thanks. Maybe there are some enhancements to the piano roll that could be added to make it more of an uber step sequencer for people who like that?
I was thinking probability for each note would be cool.
That can be done if you modulate the note pitch shifter device with an LFO or the step modulator. You can modulate each step of the step modulator with LFO s or another step modulator
Its just a bit cumbersome as the various devices you want to modulate need to be nested in the modulators, which makes it difficult if you get some crazy modulation idea and have to break the contraption apart.
Hopefully the modular view will remedy this
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- KVRian
- 818 posts since 18 Oct, 2014
Or maybe a note filter in a step mod modulated by an lfo.VariKusBrainZ wrote:Ogopogo wrote:Thanks. Maybe there are some enhancements to the piano roll that could be added to make it more of an uber step sequencer for people who like that?
I was thinking probability for each note would be cool.
That can be done if you modulate the note pitch shifter device with an LFO or the step modulator. You can modulate each step of the step modulator with LFO s or another step modulator![]()
Its just a bit cumbersome as the various devices you want to modulate need to be nested in the modulators, which makes it difficult if you get some crazy modulation idea and have to break the contraption apart.
Hopefully the modular view will remedy this
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- KVRAF
- 6239 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
a step sequencer device allowes you to trigger the whole sequence with just one note.Ogopogo wrote:What's the difference between a step sequencer and piano roll sequences in the session view?VariKusBrainZ wrote:Step sequencers aren't just for note entry remember, they are live compositional tools to jam with.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
- KVRAF
- 2562 posts since 1 Oct, 2013
But the session view allows you to trigger a sequence with one action, so what's so different? And with 1.2 you will be able to freely assign the triggering of clips to midi notes and keyboard keys.
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- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Then that's another implementation, this is how I use the bitwig ARP as a step sequencer.brok landers wrote:a step sequencer device allowes you to trigger the whole sequence with just one note.Ogopogo wrote:What's the difference between a step sequencer and piano roll sequences in the session view?VariKusBrainZ wrote:Step sequencers aren't just for note entry remember, they are live compositional tools to jam with.
No point in comparing to the piano roll.
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
I think weve strayed into semantics now.Ogopogo wrote:But the session view allows you to trigger a sequence with one action, so what's so different? And with 1.2 you will be able to freely assign the triggering of clips to controllers and keyboard keys.
Google step sequencer and look at some hardware implementations, this is where the idea comes from after all
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- KVRAF
- 6239 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
this is what i'm waiting for. but still, from experience a stepsequencer "plugin" delivers different results, due to many reasons... it' s a different thing that can lead to quite different results compared to the traditional pianoroll. at least this is my experience since 30 years of electronic music making... and why not having it? you don't, if you don't like, have to use it. but it' s good if it' s there for the ones who might use it. it only serves good if it' s there - not bad.Ogopogo wrote:>snip< And with 1.2 you will be able to freely assign the triggering of clips to midi notes and keyboard keys.
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRAF
- 6239 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I think weve strayed into semantics now.Ogopogo wrote:But the session view allows you to trigger a sequence with one action, so what's so different? And with 1.2 you will be able to freely assign the triggering of clips to controllers and keyboard keys.
Google step sequencer and look at some hardware implementations, this is where the idea comes from after all
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRian
- 513 posts since 2 Jun, 2015
Just check out monoplugs B-Step
http://b-step.monoplugs.com
http://b-step.monoplugs.com
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Or this implementation of the Klee
http://defectiverecords.com/klee/index2.html
There are a few max 4live devices similar
http://defectiverecords.com/klee/index2.html
There are a few max 4live devices similar
